On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 06:04:34PM +0200, Msavoritias wrote: > I wanted a client for Android so i searched on Google play and Fdroid but > couldn't find one with acceptable design. Proprietary or otherwise.
What is wrong with Conversations? https://f-droid.org/app/eu.siacs.conversations https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.siacs.conversations > Plus I have seen that there is a huge shift to Matrix for non-tech people. > IRC and XMPP seem to stay into obscurity. XMPP would have been popular by > now. > And what good is a system if its not popular? I don't want to message my > self. > Matrix is the only protocol that is actively developed, is Free Software > (although not AGPL-3), and seems to have a consensus by the wider community. XMPP is also actively developed and has many free software implementations (including some that are AGPLv3, like https://jmp.chat/ ). If you want/need a gratis account that supports all the important features, see https://dismail.de/register.html . > Also the clients seem to decently designed. See above - is there something Conversations is missing versus the Matrix client(s) for Android? > I'm saying all this because if we want to attract more Free Software users, > like it or not we need a good presentation with good interface. otherwise we > risk to fall into obscurity. > No, Im not saying to use proprietary messaging to attract users. I definitely agree. However, I think we need to look at which protocols are likely to stand the test of time. Matrix is very new, and the server implementation(s?) is extremely resource-heavy. XMPP has been around for over 20 years and has multiple lightweight server implementations. Denver https://jmp.chat/ _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss