> >> By doing this ourselves, as advocates of free software, we can > >> include links to why free software methologies are better, even if > >> we have to be a little flexible in what we use for support and > >> communication, Discourse my not be ideal, but would we rather people > >> used facebook or discord? > > > > Of course not Facebook. It is very easy to establish XMPP chat, it can > > be on the website or by using various applications, it will work from > > any device. There are other free software communication packages. > > > >> My support group is about respecting privacy /user freedom as much > >> as possible. > > > > In that case how can you use Facebook as a tool? Do you know that FB > > data has been leaked for 522 millions? > > I am saying i am not going to use facebook hence I want to use > discourse, irc, etc, My point is, that while discourse may not be 100 > percent free software it s better than facebook. > > > > https://hyperscope.link/3/6/8/5/8/Direct-download-of-533M-Facebook-users-phone-numbers-and-personal-data-have-been-leaked-online-36858.html
Are you kidding? Facebook is obviously evil, but discord is a nonfree spyware program that you pretty much *need* to install on your computer in order to utilize it's full functionality. That means you must leave it running in the background in order to get notifications, see messages and receive calls while you're going about your daily business on the computer, and it is basically this black box that is just sitting there listening and recording the processes running on your machine. It is made and used by scoundrels and anything you say on there, text or voice, you ought to assume to be logged and recorded. It is very much still social media, with all the negative aspects of facebook and others intact. It ropes in young people and gets them addicted to the dopamine from the social stimulation and it's hard to detach from it once all your 'net friends are on there (speaking from experience). They may use "gamer speak" or whatever in their program or their twitter for PR, but don't let it fool you, discord is not your friend and friends don't let friends use discord. I would suggest you refer to this article, it covers some of the things I have mentioned. https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html Why should we or anyone concede to the enemy and compromise our principles to use something awful like discord for the sake of short-term convenience? That is a terrible quagmire to get stuck in -- not only are you sacrificing your own freedom and privacy for immediate convenience, but you are coercing others into doing the same, and it is possible that you or those other people become addicted to the dopamine rush from other "servers" on discord! Why not just start a channel on freenode? It's trivial to do so and have people unfamiliar with IRC connect using a web-based client, once they are more comfortable with the protocol they can install a real client. It's sort of a n00b filter as well -- IRC may look intimidating (to some people) at first, but isn't anything difficult once you get used to it. If you absolutely *must* have voice communications for some reason, there is always mumble. It's easy to tell which software projects are worth taking seriously, just look at whether they use IRC or discord. -- Suushi <suushica...@dismail.de> _______________________________________________ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss