Em 02/05/2022 12:32, Paul Sutton via libreplanet-discuss escreveu: > On 01/05/2022 22:08, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: >> Since a few weeks ago, I've been dealing with the annoyance of the >> Mobile Services Manager (the famous DT Ignite, with a "nicer" name), >> which practically forces android device users to install proprietary >> applications, with abusive advertisements, when it does not install them >> without the user's permission (since it has abusive permissions to >> install and uninstall applications, as a system application). >> >> What was once a periodic annoyance has now become almost daily, as >> Digital Turbine (in partnership with Samsung) is increasing the >> insistence on 'marketing' the device's notifications tab with an >> annoying advertisement called "find the next ideal app for you". >> Furthermore, it is impossible to remove the advertisement from the >> notification tab, only by deactivating the app (which evidently does not >> seem to be effective). >> >> Those who dare to click, even if accidentally, will encounter a white >> full screen, which forces the user to click next, forcibly encouraging >> them to install the apps from the screen, or deselect a giant list of >> apps not to be installed. Furthermore, these are installed as "silent >> notifications", so the user is only aware of their existence when he >> sees them on the device. >> >> I believe, that thousands of users are annoyed by this forced >> advertising, which violates the users' freedom and reinforces the need >> for our fight. Therefore, I would like to assess with you what we can do >> about it, from complaints to campaigns, I believe that any manifestation >> of society about this abuse to the user, is of great value! >> > > Whole campaigns are good, perhaps we need to also: > > * Find out what people use / need their phones for > * Assess if alternative, Android based operating systems for mobiles can > help > * Assess if alternative phones are an option for people > * Help people make the transition > > There are some good resources to promote f-droid for example. > I made a post on alternative mobile systems back in January, and got > some of the info from the fsf website. I have sorted out the different > replacements in to Android derived and other > > https://personaljournal.ca/paulsutton/mobile-devices > > We need to raise awareness, but at the same time help people who are > shackled in to the current eco system, I think RMS said he had issues > trying to book covid test or vaccination due to the need of non free apps. > > Perhaps rather than telling people what the issue is, we can promote > the alternatives and why we feel they are better for privacy, user > freedoms etc. Make sure the alternatives work for people too. > > > I still have no idea, given the number of replacement systems, if there > is a full set of applications ported, most people don't want the > nonsense of > > App X is on replacement system x > App y is on replacement system y > app z is on replacement system z > > So a user needing to run all 3 of these applications can't as no one > replacement (which we claim is better) will run what they want, > replacemetn OS may be better for freedom but if that gets in the way of > their work, we won't get people to move. > > E,g a lot of transit systems have apps for tickets, so unless that app > is available they won't move system. > > > > Just a thought > > Paul > > > > _______________________________________________ > libreplanet-discuss mailing list > libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org > https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss >
Note: replying again, this time to the mailing list. No changes made to the message. I do agree that outlining a plan is good and, speaking of software, I hope that F-Droid fixes their FSDG-uncompliance issues, the Replicant project has more details. Meanwhile, I think that it is good to follow the Freedom Ladder ([1]), with F-Droid as middle step and, as final goal, have Replicant (no F-Droid) with ADB installing apps known to be free/libre and also FSDG-compliant (since there are rare cases in which these don't mean the same thing). # References [1]: https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:Freedom_Ladder -- * https://libreplanet.org/wiki/User:Adfeno * Ativista, não advogado, nem técnico de informática * Compre dos vendedores locais * Use e contribua ao software livre (diferente do gratuito) * Enviando docs.? Use OpenDocument. Outros tipos: vide endereço anterior * Use XMPP (federado, pai do WhatsApp) * E-mails assinados com OpenPGP (anexo "signature.asc")
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