Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2005 05:29:12 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] slow
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Philip Nienhuis wrote:
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 21:18:34 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] slow
john wrote:
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 11:31:19 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] slow
On Thu, 6 Jan 2005, Philip Nienhuis wrote:
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2005 12:52:33 +0100 From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] slow
john wrote:
Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 00:51:33 -0600 (GMT+6) From: john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: slow
thanks for the help in getting my linux install working again on my libby. Movies now play and very nicely except my audio and video are out of sync still--the audio is about four times fater than my video. the reason for this is my hard drive has started reading and writing very slow. It only works at about 1.3 M/s. It is much faster than that. It has a 8MB cache for starters:)!! here are the pertinant sections of my config file Does everything look right? its a toshiba 2.5 inch 60 gig GAX drive.
Here is my .config, actually also for the PCMCIA floppy patch. It is for 2.4.28 kernel, but while trying to get the floppy patch in the 2.6.x kernel series I noted that esp. the IDE stuff is largely the same.
I attached the entire .config file, perhaps there are more options you might want to compare to your setup.
BTW how fast does your Toshiba HD rotate? My 60 GB Hitachi 7K60 = 7200rpm + 8 MB cache, I found that does make a noticable difference compared to a 15 GB Toshiba 1517GAP 4200 rpm with ?2? MB cache.
I just checked the specs: 5400rpm, 60gig, 16MB cache. Rated at up to 100M/s top transfer rate. Its a very fast drive actually and if I can unscrewup my hard drive setup on 2.6 I'll let you know its top speed on the libby. On a equivilant laptop with dma enabled I was getting around 8 M/s, which is slow for it . On the 110CT, for some reason I am getting 1.5M/s. Faster than the IBM I was using, tho. I also seem to have a memory problem under 2.6.x. Under 2.4 I usually had about 32MB free after booting now I only have 1-2MB free. I noticed you have ACPI enabled in your .config file. When I enable it I can't get the donauboe FIR driver to find
Ah that sound familiar (in VectorLinux 4.x). I get similar messages, but I don't use IR. I forgot to disable it in the kernel or in modules.conf (or is it conf.modules?).
I get very fast speeds tho--right now with a good signal it pops over 10Kb/s regularly.
its I/O address and it doesn't create the irda0 driver plus it gives me real bad battery life. I also can't get
In my case I get 2.5-3 hours (a bit less than Windows) using ACPI. Using APM it's just about 2-2.5 hours. YMMV
your using 110CT, right? you should easily be getting over 5-6 hours with heavy use even. My libby lasts easily longer than pdas out there which is why I like it. I take off in the morning and usually don't have to recharge til I get home. the cells may be going bad in your battery pack.
the Neomagic framebuffer driver neofb to load using the 'libretto' parameter. Haven't found out why. Gives me a nasty error and locks up the
I don't use framebuffer, I just use native XFree86 Neomagic accelerated support.
does it set the screen up in 800x480 size automagically? I had trouble with that at first -- it kept defaulting to 800x600 -- until I started using the framebuffer driver. Once i got the framebuffer working X and programs started using the screen properly.
computer. I also have a problem hotplugging my dvd drive from a usb port, when it is disconnected I get a glitch that says it is linked to a whole bunch of drivers, and forces me to shut down. I'm having a whole bunch of fun:))))))))))) besides not being able to play movies.
I got no USB on my Lib (no EPR, no USB card either).
On both the 100 and 110 1.1 usb is native. you just need to plug in a connector to the docking port plug.
On my desktop I find USB support (in Mandrake 10.x) a bit lacking compared to Windows and even OS/2 Warp 4.52 / ECS 1.2. But I haven't grasped enough of the USB/hotplug internals. It some ways it looks like a minefield. Cardbus events on the Lib are much easier managed than USB on my desktop. I never tried to play DVD on my Lib in Linux, but I might try someday.
If my experince is typical dvd ply ok -- really nice clean colorful picture and great audio -- but too slow -- really need 128 meg ram at least then play fine. that should be easy to do.
Here's a question for you--I've been looking for a linux pro to unscewup my linux installations ever since I started using it last year being I'm not much of a software person myself, I'm not any good at it, and don't have any time to really fix stuff plus I want to use it. Impossible to find. Nobody seems to want to work on it inspite of the fact it has a whole list of great reasons and very few defects as compared to other small and microcomputer operating systems. And get this -- from what I've been willing to offer the pay is way better. But everybody knows how to reload programs and plug in boards in windows and wants to charge an arm and a leg to do it inspite of the fact I can grab pretty much anyone off the street to do it -- takes little brains. Problem is -- an OS like that is basically useless to me. Its pretty and clickable (which are its advantages) but it just doesn't work right. So..after this long spiel why is it so hard to find a linux guy?!!?
Well to run Linux on aging equipment like a Libretto 110 one must be a hobbyist and hobbyists take much of the beating. Plus, to run Linux on aging equipment like Librettos you cannot avoid diving into the software.
its really not that bad. its not a p4 but uses the same--pci, usb and its very fast considering the lack of both video and program ram. the nice thing about the libby is its a total hardware machine--no emulated chips so that means while it may not bethe latest or greatest its still comparible to most of whats out there. For example--the sony pg uses a slow celeron and emulation which translates into just a little faster 'ancient' libby as far as speed goes. Which is really all a person needs to run todays software.
actually I'd not a hoobyist I travel and the libby is my work computer.
Like you, I am not so much of a software guy. Last attempt was trying the floppy patch on 2.6.x kernels, but I had to give up when I found that the whole kernel interrupt stuff has been changed when going from 2.4.x to 2.6.x. - that is way over my head. Christian Gennerat, who knows more than me about Linux, was more optimistic but I haven't heard from him about this for quite some time.
even though I don't own a floppy i'd like to see that!!
The bottom line is this: there is a limit on how much support is reasonable for older HW. Although Librettos are very nice toys, their
I wasn't even thinking about the libby when I wrote that I was looking for general linux support whatever the hardware, but libby included if it came to it. but so far I have found computer support guys to be useless. they are narrow minded when it comes to simple everyday tasks a janitor would do to repair his floor scrubber. To be honest -- I don't know where they get their attitudes from. I've started to take my stuff to the local tv repair guy and there I've gotten things done. I'd be willing to bet the stereo guy is just as good!!
internal technical design left lots to be wished already when they were introduced. These rough edges become all the more evident now that current HW and SW development leave 199x designs behind.....
they aren't. unless someone comes up with a bussless machine we are still using the orginal desgn from the accubus:))
E.g., you can't even install Mandrake 10.x on a Libretto anymore, unless you recompile an install kernel or pre-install with the HD in a desktop and add a custom kernel with ISA-IDE support compiled in. No doubt you'll then find that 64 MB is too little to get anything useful done. And then the size of current XFree86 or X has not been mentioned yet...
I don't use distributions except for slackwares occaisionlly--X is fine runs as fast or faster than it did before. the problem is I have memory leaks plus the neofb driver is caching about 20MB of ram to use for video when I don't need it. I just need to limit that.
Knowledgeable linux guys do exist, I am *not* one of them. To Linux gurus a Libretto 110 is ancient, at least that's my impression after having asked around on e.g., comp.os.linux.laptops, comp.os.linux.setup and other linux & laptop news groups and forums. I find some of the better informed Linux guys on aforementioned NGs quite helpful, but they can be pretty rough at times.
sure you are!! :)) anyway I haven't found much on newsgroups but morons and stalkers. I did find a mailing list where torvalds (or someone using his name) was posting maybe I'll try that.
john
Philip
