Date: Sat, 08 Jan 2005 20:24:12 +0100
From: Philip Nienhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [LIB] Starting over: W98 on >8GB HDD w/o EZ-Drive

Matt Hanson wrote:
> 
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 17:00:32 -0800 (PST)
> From: Matt Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Starting over: W98 on >8GB HDD w/o EZ-Drive
> 
> Seems I should be able to get a copy of Windows 98 set up on the C: drive
> of this 40GB HDD without EZ-Drive overlay in a way that it can deal with
> files & folders properly on partitions above the 8GB barrier.
> 
> Can a few people who've set up Win98 their Libbys with >8GB HDDs confirm
> that W98 from a partition <8GB can run scandisk on partitions >8GB, and not
> have scandisk see file/folder problems that it doesn't with drive overly
> installed?

Yes I can confirm this. It works with 0c type FAT32 logical partitions,
and *NOT* with 0b type (risk of serious data loss).
I must say I find Win2K's "scandisk" a lot more rigorous.

> There have been numerous posts on the subject of installing W98 without
> EZ-Drive, so it seems most people aren't seeing the problems I've been
> seeing with this dual-boot setup for W98 and W2K.
> 
> If I recall correctly, setting up W98 on a >8GB HDD with out EZ-Drive goes
> basically like this:
> 
> * Use FDISK to create the biggest partition it can see
> * Format the partition FAT32
> * Copy the W98 installation folder \Win98 to C: in a desktop
> * Put the drive in the Lib and install W98
> * Put the drive in desktop and make a partition or space for Lib
> hibernation

How (with what program) would you do that? If you've installed Win98 in
the Lib, and then run it in a dsektop, it will find lots of new HW.

> * Create whatever number partitions you want >8GB
> * Put drive back in Lib, and W98 should then be able to handle files &
> folders on partition >8GB

Theoretically, it should work out like this (but I never tried it this
way, so YMMV), using a desktop with a BIOS with properly implemented
int13 extensions.

1. In the lib, on the empty HD make the biggest *primary* partition
FDISK can see (it will be almost 8 GB or just more than 8 GB, depending
on the type of GB you like (base 10.24 or base 10, the latter = SI). To
be sure, just make it about 7.8 MB (base 10.24) smaller (because Windows
may create partitions which do not start or end on cylinder boundaries).

2. Put the HD in a desktop.

3. Now use FDISK to assign the rest of the HD space to an extended
partition (will probably be type 0F).

4. Make a first logical partition with a minimum size of 71 MB, better
make it 78 or even 100 MB (base 10.24). This will be the hibernation
space. If needed, you can use PartEd to change the partition type to
-say- A0 (= IBM hibernation partition, just for a reminder).

5. Assign other logical partitions as you see fit. (They should be of
type 0C automatically)

6. If you didn't change the hibernation partition type, simply delete
the first logical partition which was to be the hibernation space.

7. Put the HD back in the Lib.

8. Install W98, don't let it touch the partition layout but simply
specify it to install in C:\Win98 or C:\WINDOWS at your discretion.

9. Using W98, format the logical partitions.

10. Ready.

> I think that's basically what I did at one point, and I don't recall having
> scandisk run into the problems I've been seeing with my setup now where it
> finds corrupted files and folders.  I know that Partition Magic wouldn't be
> able to see past 8GB without EZ-Drive.

...in a Libretto.
But perhaps, in a desktop it *is* able to see beyond 8 GB. It all
depends on proper implementation of int13 extensions in the BIOS and on
whether PM can use them. I suspect your PM version uses the BIOS for
disk access, so it is vulnerable to the Libretto's BIOS disk size bug.
 
> But it seems scandisk had no problems with such a setup.  Right?

Can't say / do not fully understand what you mean to say.

P.


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