Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 15:48:28 -0400 From: Rick Mansfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LIB] Startup Faster 2004 2.4.1
A LOT of 2k/xp services can be safely disabled, depending on how you use your PC. Many of them are only useful for specific tasks, such as the Infrared Monitor service. The trick would of course be that you could disable that normally, but enable it if you ever want to do IR transfers. The same goes for most services. If your machine isn't networked in any way, for instance, there is a whole ton of stuff you can shut down. Services you probably won't ever need: Messenger (gives you annoying popups, get rid of it) Remote Registry Service (allows people to screw with your registry remotely, probably good to disable almost always) Routing and Remote Access (probably not needed unless you encounter dialup problems without it) Task Scheduler (runs things at specified times, only used if you have defined stuff for it to do) Services needed sometimes but that can be disabled most of the time: Automatic Updates (Windows Update needs this running, but you can disable it all other times if you want) Infrared Monitor Print Spooler (obviously useless if you don't print) Services you may be able to disable, depending on how you use your PC: Computer Browser, TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper Service, Server (disable if you don't use windows LAN filesharing) DHCP Client, DNS Client, IPSEC Policy Agent (Disable if you don't use networking or internet at all) HID Input Service (enables keyboard hotkeys) Workstation (required for almost all network activity, but you can disable it for a completely standalone machine) Plug and Play (theoretically okay to disable if you never insert new PCMCIA cards, dock/undock, etc...can cause problems if disabled and anything changes though) Not sure what other services come with XP, but these are the ones in 2k. XP's services are a superset of 2k's. Also in XP, for speed, I'd recommend switching to the 'classic' window style, like 2k, NT, 98, etc. It's a bit faster than the XP blue bubbly look.. On 10/29/05, Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:22:17 +0000 > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [LIB] Startup Faster 2004 2.4.1 > > Hey Rick, > > Okay... it takes a bit of hunting down in the services settings to find > the > running Symantec processes litsed in Task Manager, but they all seem to be > there. And I guess setting them to 'Disabled' stops them starting at boot.. > > So now I'm wondering whether or not disabling all of those Symantec > processes will free up enough system resources to be noticed at all when > doing resource hungry work like processing multimedia files. Something > I'll > be testing. > > Looking down the list of services there makes me wonder how many of them > could be safely disabled... and whether or not doing so would give the > system significantly more power when working with resource hungry apps. > > In Win98's 'System Properties > Performance', I used to check the figure > for > 'System Resources' right after the system finished booting to the desktop > in > order to determine how much power I could get out of the system. I'd shut > everything down to make that figure hit somewhere in the mid 90s in > percentage. I'm not quite sure what in WinXP's 'Windows Task Manager > > Performance' corresponds to that. > > Have any suggestions there Rick? > > >From: Rick Mansfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >I neglected to mention that you can disable services, too. In Win2k it's > >under control panel/administrative tools/services. I don't know about XP.. > >Should be no problem just looking through there and disabling the > Symantec > >ones. > > > >On 10/29/05, Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2005 07:29:03 +0000 > > > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Subject: Re: [LIB] Startup Faster 2004 2.4.1 > > > > > > From: matthew patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > >go thru your registry adn look for the "Run", "RunOnce" keys and edit > > > >them with mangled paths and reboot. > > > > > > From: Rick Mansfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > >Make sure you remove it from: > > > >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > > > >HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce > > > >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run > > > >HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Runonce > > > >in the registry. Use regedit.exe. > > > > > > Well, it doesn't seem to be that simple. The only things listed in > those > > > keys are the 3 items already listed in MSCONFIG that I've already > tried > > > disabling there. That still leaves a number of processes started for > > > Norton > > > and Symantec in Task Manager > > > > > > And two of the 3 items listed there and in MSCONFIG don't show up in > > > either > > > Task Manager or TaskInfo as running when they're enabled. There are 8 > > > Norton and Symantec related processes still being shown as running in > >Task > > > Manager with or without the 3 programs listed in MSCONFIG enabled or > > > disabled. > > > > > > They are these, and seem to be started in XP's services where I found > >them > > > in Registry: > > > > > > CCEVTMGR.EXE 2.8MB RAM C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ccEvtMgr > > > > > > CCPROXY.EXE 2.5MB RAM C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ccProxy > > > > > > CCSETMGR.EXE 4.1MB RAM C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\ > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ccSetMgr > > > > > > ISSVC.EXE 7.4MB RAM C:\Program Files\Norton Internet Security > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\ISSVC > > > > > > NAVAPSVC.EXE 1.5MB RAM C:\Program Files\Norton Internet > Security\Norton > > > AntiVirus > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\navapsvc > > > > > > SNDSrvc.exe 1.7MB RAM C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec > >Shared\SPBBC > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\SNDSrvc > > > > > > SPBBCSvc.exe 1.1MB RAM C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec > >Shared\SPBBC > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\SPBBCSvc > > > > > > SYMLCSVC.EXE 156K ram C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec > > > Shared\CCPD-LC > > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Symantec Core LC > > > > > > Bleeping Symantec... why did they set things up so you can't unload > the > > > whole stupid Internet Security somehow? It's so secure that the SysOp > >has > > > to tweak things all over XPs configuration menus to unload the darned > > > thing. > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > > On 10/27/05, Matthew Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 02:15:19 +0000 > > > > > From: "Matthew Hanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Subject: Startup Faster 2004 2.4.1 > > > > > > > > > > Dan just had to kick the list server back into operation. I guess > my > > > >post > > > > > today was lost, so here it is again: > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------- > > > > > Has anyone ever tried something like this little utility to make a > > > >windows > > > > > OS boot and run faster by disabling programs that have been set to > > > load > > > >at > > > > > boot?: > > > > > > > > > > Startup Faster 2004 2.4.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.download.com/Startup-Faster-2004/3000-2094_4-10449673.html?tag=lst-4-10 > > > > > > > > > > I just reloaded and old XP image on my desktop, and am now able to > > > play > > > > > and > > > > > do work with multimedia programs that the old 800MHz system was > >having > > > > > problems with. XP had become extremely slow and problematic, and > the > > > > > difference before and after restoring the image is like day and > >night.. > > > >But > > > > > capturing high resolution video is still a problem. > > > > > > > > > > I used to be able to CTRL-ALT-DEL, and stop all apps running in > the > > > > > background to free up enough system resources to get audio, video > >and > > > > > graphics programs to run faster. > > > > > > > > > > But I installed a copy of Norton Internet Security after loading > the > > > XP > > > > > image, and now can't get all of its components to unload. I > disabled > >3 > > > > > items related to it in MSCONFIG and rebooted. But after reboot, > > > >TaskManger > > > > > still shows a number of related Symantec programs running that > >refuse > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > shut down. > > > > > > > > > > I don't suppose anyone knows if it's at all possible to disable > all > >of > > > >the > > > > > Norton Internet Security functions at boot. Support for Norton > apps > > > has > > > > > gotten terrible since Symantec bought them out. Maybe I ought to > >post > > > >over > > > > > in the Compuserve forums too. > > > > >-- > >-Rick > > > > > > > > > -- -Rick
