On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:33:22PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> Am 12.07.2013 03:36, schrieb Gao feng:
> > On 07/11/2013 07:58 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >> Am 11.07.2013 11:49, schrieb Daniel P. Berrange:
> >>> On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 11:44:48AM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >>>> Am 11.07.2013 11:42, schrieb Gao feng:
> >>>>> On 07/11/2013 03:18 PM, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> >>>>>> This morning I've installed a wrapper around ip to show me the process 
> >>>>>> tree upon ip link ... down is used.
> >>>>>> The log showed this:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   769 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
> >>>>>> 17759 ?        S      0:00  \_ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
> >>>>>> 17764 ?        S      0:00  \_ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
> >>>>>> 17772 ?        S      0:00  \_ /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd
> >>>>>> 19477 ?        S      0:00  |   \_ /bin/bash /sbin/ifdown veth5 -o 
> >>>>>> hotplug
> >>>>>> 19910 ?        S      0:00  |       \_ /sbin/ip link set dev veth5 down
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now I have to urge to use a "Kantholz". ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hmmm...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> it's systemd... I have no idea now... :(
> >>>>
> >>>> TBH it is not systemd's fault.
> >>>> OpenSUSE's /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/77-network.rules did not white list 
> >>>> veth* devices.
> >>>> Therefore systemd-udevd called ifup/down and other hotplug magic.
> >>>
> >>> Ah ha, that's a nice issue :-) I assume you've filed a bug against 
> >>> opensuse
> >>> to fix this ? Can you post a link to the bug here for the sake of archive
> >>> records.
> >>
> >> Sure:
> >> https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=829033
> >>
> > 
> > It's good news we know what causes veth device down. :)
> 
> How does Fedora deal with veth devices?

Well the udev script you mention above does not exist on Fedora and AFAIK
there's no other udev script which runs 'ifconfig down' on NICs.

> SUSE folks think that this is a more likely a libvirt issue and closed my bug 
> report as invalid...

If you remove or modify the 77-network.rules file does it fix the problem.
If so, then it is obviously not a libvirt issue.  IMHO it is completely
bogus for udev to be arbitrarily ifdown'ing any interface.

Daniel
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