While there were problems with NOSA 2.0 it was an improvement on NOSA 1.3.

But as I said, that ship has sailed and perception is perception.

You can take the observation I provided that the concerns of unfairness are not 
without merit in intended spirit of hoping the process gets better as opposed 
to just me grinding old axes...or not.


From: Bruce Perens <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Sunday, Mar 17, 2019, 11:15 AM
To: [email protected] 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [License-discuss] The pro se license constructor

Oops - sorry about the incorrect Latin.

Nigel, if lawyers all agreed there would be no need for courts. OSI had it's 
own counsel arguing against elements of NOSA, and there were other such counsel 
on the list. While I have only been participating for a year, I saw significant 
problems in the license and concurred with the OSI representative. My feedback 
from discussion with real NASA users is that they don't like the license either.

Thanks

Bruce
On Sun, Mar 17, 2019, 07:05 Tzeng, Nigel H. 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Again, speaking only for myself, but I find it interesting that the need for 
legal review is considered so important but when a practicing IP lawyer in a 
specific domain claims that certain license constructs are required to meet the 
required regulations for a governmental agency that laypersons can simply say 
"Nope" and that's pretty much the end of that.

I guess that ship has sailed and I should simply just drop it in the interest 
of harmony but if there is soul searching to be done by the OSI then it would 
be wise to consider why it appears that the current state of affairs on license 
approval is perceived to be unfair.

From: Bruce Perens <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, Mar 15, 2019, 4:32 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [License-discuss] The per se license constructor

While we are discussing license approval, this morning's submission had no 
legal review, the excuse being that it was a mashup of what was presumably the 
work of unidentified lawyers.

There is great danger in using a license that has had no legal review, since 
you have little idea of how it will work in court. The per se license 
constructor transmits that danger to others who use their license.

I thus feel all such things should be rejected, although the reason is entirely 
outside of the OSD.

    Thanks

    Bruce
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