If GAE is not a good home for Lift applications, can you recommend
some alternate hosts?  Are there any free alternates?

Thanks,
Sam Reid

On Apr 17, 3:57 pm, David Pollak <feeder.of.the.be...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I've just committed a version of Lift (including the Lift Example) that runs
> on the Google App Engine.  You can see the running demo 
> at:http://liftdemo.appspot.com/
>
> What's missing:
>
>    - Mapper and Mapper-related stuff.  You can use JPA.
>    - Comet.  GAE's lack of thread or message queue support is a huge
>    limitation.
>    - Actor-based session-shutdown notification is disabled on GAE.
>    - There's no session affinity guarantee, so there may be problems with
>    migrating sessions (I'll be working with the Google folks on this issue)
>
> Okay... so you can build apps on GAE... I have to wonder... who would want
> to?
>
> GAE gives you a highly scalable platform to build CRUD apps.  Without a
> back-end messaging infrastructure, long running processes, threads,
> inter-session messaging, etc. there's not much in the way of exciting apps
> to build.  Here are a list of apps that could not be built with GAE:
>
>    - Twitter (requires a message bus and back-ground processing)
>    - Facebook (has many of Twitter's requirements)
>    - GoogleTalk
>    - A travel site (the 30 second request duration means that looking stuff
>    up on a back end service is not possible)
>    - A multi-player game
>
> So... on a $100/mo box from CalPop, I can run a service that will scale to
> 20M requests per day.  If I'm doing 20M requests per day, I've got a
> business where I want more control over my infrastructure than GAE gives
> me.  That might be Amazon EC2 where I can power-up and down boxes at will.
> There are also a number of different scalable storage solutions on Amazon.
> I just can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would want to put a
> Java/Scala app on GAE.
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
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