Derek,

Thanks! An engine is a natural next step! ;-)

Best wishes,

--greg

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Derek Chen-Becker <dchenbec...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm not an expert at archetypes by any means, but I did kinda/sorta figure
> out some basics when I put together the JPA archetypes. I'd be happy to help
> if I can. Going one further, I wonder if there would be a way to just make a
> single engine that could dynamically generate the artifacts it needs on the
> backend.
>
> Derek
>
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Meredith Gregory <lgreg.mered...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Derek, et al,
>>
>> Thanks for all the kind feedback. i could use a little help with one
>> thing. In addition to this project, i've also got
>>
>>    - A project exploring how a relational query language is generated
>>    from a DSL describing typed sets of 
>> tuples<http://code.google.com/p/relatrope/>
>>    - A project exploring how a graph query language is generated from a
>>    DSL for describing graphs <http://code.google.com/p/graphatrope/>
>>    - A project exploring how a query language for service descriptions is
>>    generated from a DSL for describing concurrent 
>> processes<http://code.google.com/p/parallelatrope/>
>>
>> All of these projects, plus the rlambda 
>> one<http://code.google.com/p/rlambda/>,
>> are cut of the same cloth in the sense that there is common lift structure
>> wrapped around what is generated from the language description that is more
>> or less contained in the bnf description. At this point, i'm convinced there
>> is a useful lift archetype here. However, i don't know archetypes from myths
>> or legends. ;-) If someone could help me get started i think i could flesh
>> out a pretty compelling lift archetype for generating DSL's that i would
>> love to contribute back to lift.
>>
>> Long term, if you look at a system like Peter Sewell's 
>> Ott<http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/%7Epes20/ott/>,
>> you should come away with the idea that it ought to be possible to provide,
>> over and above the DSL's grammar, a very minimal specification of the DSL's
>> semantics and have an execution engine generated. So, imagine, if you will,
>> a lift archetype that takes as input a file approximately the size of the
>> rlambda.cf<http://code.google.com/p/rlambda/source/browse/trunk/src/main/bnfc/rlambda.cf>+
>>  a couple of rules for beta-reduction and alpha-equivalence, and generates
>> the entire REPL-in-web-container, i.e.
>>
>>    - generates a parser
>>    - an evaluator
>>
>> Beyond that, i have special sauce that will allow me to take such a spec
>> and additionally generate
>>
>>    - a logic
>>    - a model checker
>>    - a search engine
>>
>> That's where i'm headed long-term. But, to get there i need just a little
>> bit of help with the archetype stuff.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> --greg
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Derek Chen-Becker 
>> <dchenbec...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> We just can't be half-assed about anything, can we? ;) Seriously, this is
>>> really, really cool. I'm looking forward to seeing how this grows.
>>>
>>> Derek
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Meredith Gregory <
>>> lgreg.mered...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lifted, Scalad and lasses,
>>>>
>>>> Recently Martin passed along a little code challenge regarding scalable
>>>> abstractions for building a little lambda calculus evaluator. i've finally
>>>> put together a 1st draft response. i've still got a lot of debugging to do,
>>>> but the solution<http://code.google.com/p/rlambda/source/browse/trunk/>is 
>>>> end-to-end.
>>>>
>>>>    - there is a parser and evaluator hosted inside a lift-based
>>>>    web-container
>>>>    - the parser is built using BNFC and can target
>>>>    Java/C#/OCaml/Haskell/F#/...
>>>>    - the parser comes with visitor pattern support
>>>>    - the evaluator is built in a two-level type style and demonstrates
>>>>    that the only OO you need is just enough to make Scala happy -- the
>>>>    abstractions are all FP-based
>>>>
>>>> As i said, this is very much a draft and the code falls over most of the
>>>> time. But, at this point, it's really a pedagogical device and framework 
>>>> for
>>>> hosting and evaluating different solutions.
>>>>
>>>> Again, one the main reasons i see for using Scala is it's seamless
>>>> interop with Java. The OCaml solution is intriguing (though ther are some
>>>> strangenesses in it that i've yet to grok), but i would like to see that
>>>> solution hosted in this manner.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>
>>>> --greg
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> L.G. Meredith
>>>> Managing Partner
>>>> Biosimilarity LLC
>>>> 1219 NW 83rd St
>>>> Seattle, WA 98117
>>>>
>>>> +1 206.650.3740
>>>>
>>>> http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> L.G. Meredith
>> Managing Partner
>> Biosimilarity LLC
>> 1219 NW 83rd St
>> Seattle, WA 98117
>>
>> +1 206.650.3740
>>
>> http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>


-- 
L.G. Meredith
Managing Partner
Biosimilarity LLC
1219 NW 83rd St
Seattle, WA 98117

+1 206.650.3740

http://biosimilarity.blogspot.com

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