Overall this feature seems most similar to 'rewriting'.  E.g. the url
comes in as "http://localhost/foobar";, we don't recognize it, so we'll
re-write it to template "404".

What about Either[RewriteResponse, LiftResponse]? E.g. same as what
Marius suggested but use RewriteResponse instead of String.

On Dec 30, 1:26 pm, Marius <marius.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I thought of that but that is problematic because:
>
> 1. Having a TemplateResponse holding a path without the rendering
> logic, people could use that to send a response to the client, which
> would be incorrect as having a LiftResponse holding /a/b/c doesn;t
> mean anything to a client. And this would alter the semantics of a
> LiftResponse. That's why I proposed an Either.
>
> 2. On the other hand if we have a TemplateResponse holding the logic
> of processing a template (similar to the one proposed on this thread)
> would mean that we're doing the processing outside of the normal
> rendering pipeline which has the downsides discussed.
>
> Br's,
> Marius
>
> On Dec 30, 8:18 pm, Naftoli Gugenheim <naftoli...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Would it not be possible to have a LiftResponse that runs through the 
> > regular plumbing? This way instead of introducing Either you can just use a 
> > TemplateResponse etc.
>
> > -------------------------------------
>
> > Marius<marius.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Please open a defect herehttp://github.com/dpp/liftweb/issues...
> > whether or not this solution will make it in master will be subject
> > for reviewboard. The solution I proposed has a breaking change by the
> > introduction of Either[List[String], LiftResponse] instead of
> > LiftResponse but I don't think that many people are using uriNotFound
> > and it's really quite a small change which regardless needs to be
> > announced.
>
> > Other opinions on this?
>
> > Br's,
> > Marius
>
> > On Dec 30, 6:20 pm, Alex Black <a...@alexblack.ca> wrote:
>
> > > > While I totally agree that a plain 404 + markup is much more
> > > > straightforward,
> > > > "breaks internet" are too big words :) .. sending back a
> > > > 302 or 301 tells the UA "you asked me for a resource that I know I
> > > > don't have but I wont tell
> > > > you explicitely, instead I want you to go to this location as an
> > > > alternative resource". Somehow it's like scratching with the wrong
> > > > hand and purely from HTTP protocol perspective this is not quite
> > > > straightforward as 404 + template, but I don't necessarily see it as a
> > > > so bad thing.
>
> > > Heh, I apologise, definitely "breaking the internet" is a bit
> > > dramatic.  I do have a different view than you though, I think its
> > > incorrect to return a 301 or 302 in these scenarios, the correct
> > > response is 404.  Not only is it the correct response, but given most
> > > sites get 50%-90% of their traffic from Google, and Google thinks its
> > > also correct to return 404 (http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://
> > > googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/08/farewell-to-
> > > soft-404s.html, its in our best financial interest to play nice with
> > > Google.
>
> > > > Specifically for 404 (when a template is not found we could do
> > > > something like:
>
> > > > 1. In LiftRules instead of:
>
> > > > type URINotFoundPF = PartialFunction[(Req, Box[Failure]),
> > > > LiftResponse]
>
> > > > use
>
> > > > type URINotFoundPF = PartialFunction[(Req, Box[Failure]), Either[List
> > > > [String], LiftResponse]]
>
> > > > so that function can return a template path instead of response.
>
> > > > 2. In LiftSession#processRequest instead of applying the normal
> > > > request pipeline only if the addressed template is found, we can use
> > > > the path obtained from LiftRules.uriNotFound if Lift fails to find the
> > > > normal tempalte. Hence apply the normal rendering pipeline to the
> > > > template referenced by uriNotFound.
>
> > > > This approach allows your 404 case to be handled by the normal
> > > > rendering pipeline without other hacks.
>
> > > > Unless someone thinks this is a bad solution, Alex you could open an
> > > > issue and I'll work on it.
>
> > > Thanks for proposing that solution Marius.  I can't really comment on
> > > whether or not its the right way to do it from Lift's point of view,
> > > but as a user of Lift it sounds like it would work well.
>
> > > - Alex
>
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