James wrote: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 11:54 AM

>- **status**: Started --> Invalid
> - **Patch**: needs_work -->  
> - **Comment**:
> 
> Revisiting this, the example given at the start of this issue
> 
> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/explicit-breaks
> 
> has no corresponding entry at all in the 2.19 documentation. In fact the 
> entire NR 4.x section is completely different.
> 
> The example in the 2.18 is for overriding when LilyPond doesn't honour a 
> manual `\break` or `\pagebreak` command by using 
> `NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission` overrides. The 2.19 doc doesn't 
> mention any example or even snippet. It does have one mention about 
> `line-break-permission` but only in the context of what the setting does and 
> what its defaults are.

This section was changed significantly in Oct 2014when the various 
\auto..breaks.. commands were installed.  See

https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4169/
 
> So I wonder now if this tracker is still needed.

so marking this invalid is correct.
 
Trevor


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** [issues:#3960] NR 4.3 - 'Explict breaks' needs better example for 
line/page-break-permission**

**Status:** Invalid
**Created:** Sat Jun 21, 2014 09:00 AM UTC by Anonymous
**Last Updated:** Wed Oct 18, 2017 10:54 AM UTC
**Owner:** pkx166h


*Originally created by:* *anonymous

*Originally created by:* 
[pkx1...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115988136766997056421/)
*Originally owned by:* 
[pkx1...@gmail.com](http://code.google.com/u/115988136766997056421/)

From thread here:

[http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Docs-example-for-line-break-permission-and-page-break-permission-td159803.html#a159851](http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Docs-example-for-line-break-permission-and-page-break-permission-td159803.html#a159851)

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Paul Morris
Reply | Threaded | More  
Feb 24, 2014; 9:18pm
Docs: example for line-break-permission and page-break-permission
392 posts
    
The example given here:
[http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/explicit-breaks](http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/explicit-breaks)

is not so good since the output is actually the same when you comment out the 
commands that it is intended to illustrate:

% \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = \#\#f
% \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.page-break-permission = \#\#f

\(It is a good demonstration of ragged-bottom and ragged-right, however.\)  To 
improve it the number of measures on some of the lines and the number of lines 
per page would need to be increased so that they are large enough to trigger an 
automatic line break or page break if these commands were not present.  

Below is a suggested revision that does a better job of illustrating the 
effects of those two commands.  

Thanks,
-Paul

%
\version "2.18.0"
\paper \{
  indent = \#0
  ragged-right = \#\#t
  ragged-bottom = \#\#t
\}

music = \relative c'' \{ c8 c c c \}

\score \{
  \new Staff \{
    \repeat unfold 2 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 2 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 4 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 6 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 8 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 10 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 12 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 14 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 12 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 10 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 8 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 6 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 4 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 2 \{ \music \} \break
    \repeat unfold 2 \{ \music \} \pageBreak
    \repeat unfold 2 \{ \music \}
  \}
  \layout \{
    \context \{
      \Score
      \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.line-break-permission = \#\#f
      \override NonMusicalPaperColumn.page-break-permission = \#\#f
    \}
  \}
\}       


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