On 2/7/07, Kress, Stephen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I think Han-Wen said it himself (though he didn't realize it). I like the idea if \paper being as you described (with just the six properties).
Me too. I think that greatly clears up what belongs in the \paper block -- just stuff that has to do with the physical dimensions and printable area of actual paper.
Put all the other stuff (the outside-the-score layout stuff) in a new block called \page-layout Maybe, if folks get too confused between \page-layout and \layout, the \layout block can be moved inside the \score block since that's what it applies to the most. It might also be that a \layout block that is outside a \score block (for the purposes of a "global" style) could be renamed to \score-layout.
So what do think about dividing the outside-of-score stuff into two categories? Because it seems like maybe these two lists of settings do different things: list 1: ragged-bottom ragged-last-bottom system-count between-system-space between-system-padding horizontal-shift blank-page-force blank-last-page-force page-spacing-weight list 2: first-page-number print-first-page-number print-page-number auto-first-page-number head-separation foot-separation print-all-headers (iso printallheaders) after-title-space before-title-space between-title-space Right now both list 1 and list 2 will just be put together into the outside-of-score (\paper) bucket. But it seems that may list 1 is really concerned with the *the layout of music on the page* whereas list 2 is concerned with *adding headers and footers outside the music*. So does it make sense to divide list 1 and list 2? And if so, with what names?
Just some q&d thoughts... Stephen -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Trevor Baca Sent: Wed 2/7/2007 12:47 PM To: Han-Wen Nienhuys Cc: lilypond-devel; lilypond-user Subject: Re: Reorganizing the contents of the \paper block On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Baca escreveu: > > On 2/7/07, Han-Wen Nienhuys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Trevor Baca escreveu: > >> > >> > > >> > I wouldn't ask except for the fact that I've now been laying out score > >> > very successfully with lily for going on two years and I still have to > >> > stop and ask myself "Hmm ... I'm wanting to pad systems on the page so > >> > that they lay out more loosely. So that concerns layout and I'll look > >> > for settings over here in the \layout block. Oh wait. Settings for > >> > system layout live in the \paper block ..." > >> > >> the \layout block only affects what's in a score. Page layout (margins, > >> titles, etc) fall outside that and therefore are in the \paper block. > >> Perhaps better names can be found for paper/layout; suggestions > >> appreciated. > > > > Hmmm. > > > > Just thinking out loud here ... so there's an inside-of-score / > > outside-of-score dichotomy going on here. I don't think I had ever > > realized that ... > > > > So that means that ragged-right (which currently lives in \layout) is > > perceived as inside-of-score, whereas ragged-bottom (which currently > > lives in \paper) is outside-of-score? > > yes. However, \layout settings default to what is in the \paper block, > so ragged-right may also be defined in the \paper{} block. OK. Hm. So ragged-right can live in the *\layout* block (and have score-level scope). Or ragged-right can live in the *\paper* block (and have file-level scope). Would it make more sense to have the idea that ragged-right only ever live in a \layout block, together with the companion idea that there can be both score-level \layout blocks and also one file-level \layout block? -- Trevor Baca [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2007-02-07, 13:02:32 The information contained in this e-mail message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your computer. 2007-02-07, 13:33:40 The information contained in this e-mail message and any attachments may be privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this e-mail and delete the message and any attachments from your computer.
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