On Mi., 15. Jun. 2011 18:51:59 CEST, Phil Holmes <m...@philholmes.net> wrote:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Reinhold Kainhofer" <reinh...@kainhofer.com>
> To: <lilypond-devel@gnu.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Patch: small reduction in output from make doc
> 
> 
> > Am Mittwoch, 15. Juni 2011, 16:22:14 schrieb Phil Holmes:
> > > 2>&1 sends error and normal output to the same place.
> > 
> > Hmm, doesn't that defeat the whole purpose of error messages?
> > I mean, by this you are HIDING the error messages, too. The current 
> > problem
> > with the make output is that a plethora of useless progress messages
> > are hiding those few error messages that would be really useful to be
> > seen.
> > 
> > Hiding all error messages together with the progress messages is
> > throwing   out
> > the baby with the bath water (as we say here in German).
> 
> I can't say I disagree.   As it stands, however, my initial goal is to
> get   the output down to a readable amount full stop - if that means
> discarding a   few error messages thrown by LilyPond in compiling lily
> files to create midi   files, I'm not sure I'd be too worried.

The problem is that when the build fail, it will do so without any indication 
why it did. To me that's even worse than having too much progress output.

To try it out, I would recommend to insert some syntax error in a ly file. A 
good indicator for the usefulness of your patch is whether it is easier or 
harder to find the spot of the error.

After all, the whole purpose of the make output is to determine the spot of the 
error when the build fails.

Cheers,
Reinhold

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