Mike,

)-----Original Message-----
)From: m...@apollinemike.com [mailto:m...@apollinemike.com]
)Sent: 29 July 2011 08:23
)To: James Lowe
)Cc: lilypond-devel (lilypond-devel@gnu.org)
)Subject: Re: auto numbering footnote checkin doesn't play with \null and
)\musicglyph
)
)On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:46 PM, James Lowe wrote:
)
)> Mike,
)>
)> I *think* your recent checkin did something to your original
)\footnote[Grob] code because taking a snippet from my example in my
)in-progress doc patch
)>
)> \version "2.15.6"
)>
)> #(set-default-paper-size "a6")
)>
)> \book {
)>  \relative c' {
)>   c1
)>    \breathe
)>    \footnoteGrob #'BreathingSign #'(1 . 1)
)>    \markup { \musicglyph #"rests.4" }
)>    \markup { \null }
)>  }
)> }
)>
)> Worked fine.
)>
)> Now it prints the numeral '1' all over the place actually. If you change
)\null to " ", then it goes away but I get a number with no footnote. It also
)seems to ignore the glyph used in a markup.
)>
)> My original intention in my doc patch was to show how to have a
)'footnoteGrob markup without a footnote (and also show how you can
)add space between the copyright and the last footnote), Neil suggested I
)use \null instead of " " which did the same thing, until now.
)>
)> regards
)>
)
)James,
)
)You need to set footnote-auto-numbering = ##f in the paper block in all
)your old examples.
)
)Cheers,
)MS

err.. did you look at the 'weird' pdf example?

I didn't get any error from LP when I compiled it, so the user is not going to 
get any knowledge that something is not right. They are just going to get their 
music covered with numbers in all the margins and any markups that contain 
glyphs will not come out (even though they have been explicitly marked). 

While documentation does help users do the right thing, we should be reporting 
in the compilation message that something is wrong when they make the file, I 
just don't know what can and cannot be used without the \paper { } layout block 
now. All that this ##f option does as far as I can tell is that it restarts the 
autonumbering again on the next page.

Also, it seems there are now 3 commands

\footnote

\footnoteGrob

and now \autofootnoteGrob

but is there \autofootnote too?

and are you saying the \auto* is mutually exclusive from the other type and if 
we only have \autofootnoteGrob, what happens (as this example shows) if I want 
to use \autofootnoteGrob and \footnote you can't?

I don't think just telling a user to use this in the \paper { } block is good 
enough compared to what we have.

James



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