Janek Warchoł <janek.lilyp...@gmail.com> writes: > 2011/9/11 David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org>: >> >> Let me suggest >> <URL:http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.general/66503> >> as one data point supporting my contention that \relative f and its >> relatives might be worth mentioning in the manual. >> >> "\relative f >> will use whatever note starts that group as the \relative note >> (think about it!)." > > Magnificent! I didn't realize what you were saying at the beginning, > but now i see and i'm stunned!
It is more likely that you only saw what I was saying at the beginning, but now you realized what I was actually thinking. The quoted sentence is definitely and quite embarrassingly utter rubbish. "\relative f will interpret whatever note starts that group as if it were specified as an absolute pitch." would be what I meant. The "\relative note", of course, is nothing but f if you specify "\relative f". > A "ransparent" relative! It's definately worth mentioning in the > docs. As for the original question - whether we should encourage > \relative f* instead of \relative c* - i'm not sure. \relative f is > indeed very smart and perhaps more fool-proof (i admit making mistakes > with \relative c' - mainly when i want pitch b or b' to appear). It's > only drawback is that it requires some thinking at the beginning; i'm > not opposed to thinking, but Lily is already very hard for beginners > :( It requires thinking if you have not yet come across it. If the documentation (tutorial _and_ notation) mentions it prominently, it should be idiomatic enough. I would have considered it a better default for \relative { ... } as well, but that's water down the old drawbridge. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel