Urs Liska <li...@openlilylib.org> writes: > Am 11.11.2017 um 12:30 schrieb David Kastrup: >> I find "grouping" without "beat" fine. I could have been responsible >> for the terminology in the code (pretty sure I wasn't, but it matches >> the terminology I use quite better). >> >> Now I have certainly not gotten an English music education, so can >> someone who did chime in? > > I haven't either, but I can refer to Gould's terminology. While we all > agree that no single engraving book provides "the truth", it is surely > a good idea to match her terminology, if only to be able to > communicate with users/developers of other programs. > > She says: "Divisions of a beat are beamed together in all metres." and > states 2/4, 6/8, and 2/2 as metres of 2 beats. (p. 153, "Beaming > according to the metre")
I'd be interested in her take on the terminology for uneven subdivisions, like the 3+3+2 used these days in tango. > 3/2, and 9/16 are given as examples of metres of 3 beats. > > So it's clear that her terminology matches that of beatStructure, > "beat" = "beat" and "baseMoment" = "Division of a beat". > > The example I gave is also present in her examples (p. 155), other > examples of metres with beats of different lengths include 5/16 (2+3 > or 3+2) and 7/8. Ah, ok. > So I think we can safely say the terminology of beatStructure is > correct (or at least acceptable). > > "Beat" also refers to what a conductor would do. the 3+3+2 from my > example would be given as three "beats" by the conductor. Maybe your > perception of "beat" as necessarily regular comes from the fact that > in German we use "beat" too, but usually referring to specific styles > that are limited to regular beats ... I actually perform quite a bit in 4/4 with a basic rhythm of { 4. 4. 4 }, but I've never heard anybody refer to the last quarter as the "third beat" when directing musicians where to start. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel