Graham,
    Thanks. That was it!

Brett S.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Graham Percival" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Stahlman Family" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: notes shifted down an octave


> On Fri, 08 Nov 2002 22:36:05 -0600
> Stahlman Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >   c4 d e
> >
> > It compiles to a postscript file, but when I view it, the 3 notes are
> > shifted down an octave from middle C! The examples online show just a
> > plain c as
>
> *wince*  (I recently edited the tutorials, hoping to make things more
> clear)
>
> I was wondering if this would happen... please see the examples in
>
http://lilypond.org/stable/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/More-basics.htm
l
>
> Middle C is actually c'.  Yes, the first page of the tutorial is
> misleading.
>
>
>
> For the devel folks:
> It something I wondered about for the tutorial... should we do the basic
> stuff in bass clef (so that \notes{c d e f g a b} don't have a ton of
> ledger lines), or should we use octave-shift at the very beginning (ie
> \notes{c' d' e' f' g' a' b'} )?
>
> As a cellist, I find bass clef much easier to understand than treble,
> but I assume that most people learn treble first.  Perhaps we should
> introduce octave-shifting in the first tutorial, and not have hidden
> \transpose c'' { ... } statements to produce the output?
>
> As an aside, I'm unable to submit any significant patches until Dec
> (after final exams), but I'm certainly willing to make these changes at
> that time, unless somebody objects to the octave-shifts.
>
> Cheers,
> - Graham
>
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