On 2016-11-02 11:35, David Kastrup wrote:
Alexander Kobel <a-ko...@a-kobel.de> writes:

On 2016-11-02 11:20, David Kastrup wrote:
Alexander Kobel <a-ko...@a-kobel.de> writes:

I mostly set vocal music - typically clean SATB with exactly four
voices on either two or four staves, but sometimes a voice splits to
two or three in between.  In that case, I'll almost always have a
four-staves situation.  This screams for << \\ >> or << \\ \\ >>.

However, I attach lyrics to the voices, and that's why I give them
sensible names - namely, "sop" (or "soprano"), "alt", etc.  The
implicit voice naming with << \\ >> means that I have to split my
lyrics to separate context, or I'll have to rename the voices inside
<< \\ >>.

No, it just means that your lyrics have to follow the staff rather than
a single voice unless your lyrics split as well.

Can't find the issue number where this was made to work.  Still has
problems with overlapping melismata if I remember correctly, so maybe
that's why it's not advertised prominently.

Hum.  You mean if I name the staff instead of the voices, I can create
lyrics that follow all voices that are active on this staff?
Doesn't seem to work, but I might not have the right syntax.

It's a 2.19 thing.

Post-2.19.49? Because that's what I tested with (without knowing what syntax might be required, though):

\version "2.19.49"
sop = \relative c'' {
  c4 c c c
  << { c c } \\ { g4. g8 } >> c4 c
}
\score {
  <<
    \new Staff = "sop" \sop
    \new Lyrics \lyricsto "sop" { a b c d e f g h }
  >>
}

test.ly:9:17: warning: cannot find Voice `sop'

    \new Lyrics
                \lyricsto "sop" { a b c d e f g h }

By the way, your reply to Werner shows pretty much what I actually
would consider useful: :-)

[...]
The problem I see right away with that is that it is useful.  How is
that a problem?

<<
  \new Voice = "soprano" {
     ...
     \voices 1,soprano << ... \\ ... >>
     ...
  }
  \lyricsto "soprano" { ... }


Lo and behold, we have a solution for an old problem.
[...]

That one can actually be done sort-of right away.  It would likely
cement the "2"/\voiceTwo/2nd item relation however.  Which is sort of
the opposite of the proposal I started this discussion with.

I see, and totally agree.  It's just something to keep in mind.


Cheers,
Alexander

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