Hans Åberg <haber...@telia.com> writes: >> On 9 Nov 2016, at 10:45, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote: >> >> The problem with appoggiature is that their timing is loose as the >> transition to the main note is not supposed to be a rhythmical accent. >> If you listen to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQseNJP_bzk in >> comparison to most renditions, you'll find that I execute the >> appoggiature on the long side, passing the "proper" moment (and yes, >> I know that I have only executed the explicitly written ones in the >> manuscript with "violine concertante" as I was too lazy to figure out a >> strategy myself when the top voice is almost but not quite a solo voice >> in a string quartet). > > You need an expert: one of my teachers could do Baroque improvisations. > > The long grace notes, I usually prefer toward the half written value, > though some perform the full value.
An appoggiatura does not feel like a "grace note" to me. Vaccai states in his singing exercises that the appoggiatura should be _at least_ the written value. The point being that the _main_ note pitch is uninteresting and is what the note relaxes rather than resolves to. Of course masking this change by executing it simultaneously with _significant_ changes in other voices is a perfectly valid kind of execution. But it becomes almost impossible to do this with an articulation that differentiates the appoggiatura from a regular note: when transcribing music played in that manner, no appoggiatura would ever appear. Which is vaguely disturbing to me. So I might be overdoing my "musical pronunciation" as a sign of me being unable to convey very subtle differences in a sovereign manner. >> For better or worse, the prominent function of writing systems is to >> pin down the semantic content of an expression rather than its >> execution. When wanting to think about music and your options to >> perform it, you'll rather use notes than tablature (which is sort of >> musical IPA in that it focuses on execution rather than content). > > It varies: in gamelan music, performers prefer the traditional one, > being more compact. The staff system is used by some, but has not > caught on that much in general. I find that for chant, modern notation is quite distracting from the flow of speech to me. I prefer how square notation keeps things together. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user