Am 02.03.2018 um 09:16 schrieb Andrew Bernard:
Hi Urs,
Forgive me if saying something you know, but just confirming that
PostScript user space coordinate units are 1/72 inch. This is close to
one point, but there is no universally accepted definition of one
point. Some conventions use 1/72.72 inches (!), for example.
OK, thank you. Although I was aware of that issue it seems I'll have to
review the calculations.
So what you're saying is that when the EPS bounding box says "80" this
means "80 times 1/72 inch", right?
According to
https://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/8260/what-are-the-various-units-ex-em-in-pt-bp-dd-pc-expressed-in-mm#8337
- 1pt in LaTeX is 1/72.26999 inches.
- 1pb is 1/72.00082 inches. ("bp" refers to Big Points)
According to
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/distances-and-measurements
a LilyPond \pt is 1/72.27 inch, so obviously the LaTeX variant.
So obviously I do have to perform some transformations since my current
assumption (the units in the bbox are equivalent to pt) produces slight
offsets. But still I have to afterwards deal with the (annoying) issue
that the bounding box is truncated to integers.
The information confirming this is on p 183 of the 3rd edition
Postscript manual (same as the one Karl quotes from). [That manual is
freely downloadable from Adobe.]
I don't know what 'bp' is, sorry, and I don't know what the size of a
point ]\pt in LaTex is either.
I don't know if lilypond transforms Postscript user space coordinates
into device space coordinates or when it does that. I thought GS would
handle that late on, closer to final imaging.
Does anyone know at which stage this bounding box is calculated for the
first time? And if there's any possibility to access that information
from within LilyPond to write out a special logfile?
This would be very interesting for another reason: I would actually like
to determint the amount of protrusion *to the right* too, and that is
not possible for ragged systems.
The lower left corner is relative to the beginning of the staff symbol,
so I will always know how much space is used to the left of that. But I
can only infer the *right* protrusion from the difference between the
upper right corner of the bounding box and the line width (which I
know). When the system is justified this gives correct results but not
when the system is ragged.
But maybe that's a separate question.
Best
Urs
Andrew
On 2 March 2018 at 18:26, Urs Liska <li...@openlilylib.org
<mailto:li...@openlilylib.org>> wrote:
I think it *is* the smallest box, but truncated to integers. At
least I can't imagine a box that leaves full units empty.
From what I've seen so far I was confident that the numbers
correspond to what LilyPond sees as \pt, and also in LaTeX I have
treated the numbers as pt (as opposed to bp).
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