Flaming Hakama by Elaine <ela...@flaminghakama.com> writes: > This is probably tilting at windmills at this point, > since we seem to have adopted this language, > both in LilyPond and in the ee. > > But, from the perspective of our terminology reflecting English language > usage, > I feel compelled to point out that "consist" and "consisted" > are not used in English as active verbs. > > Yes, these do work in the passive, or in the past tense. > As in "my meal consisted of steak and potatoes", > or "my meal consists of steak and potatoes". > > But you would not say, "I consisted a meal of steak and potatoes", nor > would you say, "I consisted parsley to a meal of steak and potatoes."
So you are complaining that our use of the verb does not match the description of some naturally occuring entirely different phenomenon? > But when using it as a word, it does not parse well: > >> When an engraver is consisted to a Voice or Staff or similar context >> only properties created through overrides are visible to the >> acknowledger while tweaks seem to be hidden. However, if I consist the >> engraver to Score also tweaks are recognized. > > > Here is a usage of the \consists command: > > \context { > \Staff > \consists Mark_engraver > \consists Metronome_mark_engraver > } > > To convey what this does, it would be more along the lines of > "Create a Staff context that consists of a Mark_engraver and > Metronome_mark_engraver". Which forms a grammatical statement which, when interpreted at its grammatical meaning, is factually utterly wrong. > I mean, you could say that, but it does not make sense to a native > English speaker. Which is better than making wrong sense. It makes obvious that we are using a non-standard sense of the word borrowing from the meaning of the reserved word in its context of LilyPond rather than the natural world. > In this sense, if commands are to be read as verbs, maybe we should change > the command name. > Is there a reason why we couldn't use \with, or \add ? > > \context { > \Staff > \with Mark_engraver > \with Metronome_mark_engraver > } \with is taken. > \context { > \Staff > \add Mark_engraver > \add Metronome_mark_engraver > } > > I think that conveys more clearly what is happening. Not really: that remains something to look up in the documentation. Now I'll readily admit that \consists / \remove does not make for an appealing antonym pair. I'd be leary after all this time of turning a common word like "add" into a reserved word even though "remove" is not better in that regard. But at least it has the advantage of being established. -- David Kastrup _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user