Sorry, Andrew. I've been buried in work for my choir. Allow me to try to address the questions/comments in a single mail to catch up.

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On 2019-03-25 5:04 pm, Andrew Bernard wrote:
The pink arrow lines - how does lilypond work out this distance? It seems
to be that that is jumping around. Can you help me understand that?

The pink lines are hard-coded as part of my demonstration of using a specific value for minimum-space. It was meant only to visually depict the offset, as it can be hard to count staff spaces outside the staff itself.

What I could have done was this:

%%%%
  %% Overlay reference lines.
  \override Hairpin.stencil =
    #(grob-transformer 'stencil (lambda (grob orig)
      (let* ((p (ly:grob-object grob 'axis-group-parent-Y))
             (y (ly:grob-property p 'minimum-space)))
        (grob-interpret-markup grob #{
          \markup \with-dimensions-from \stencil $orig \overlay {
            \with-color #(rgb-color 0.4 0.7 1.0)
            \path #0.2 #'((moveto -8 0) (lineto 8 0))
            \with-color #(rgb-color 1.0 0.4 0.7)
            \path #0.2 #`((moveto 0 0) (lineto 0 ,y)
              (moveto -2 ,y) (lineto 2 ,y)
              (moveto -1 ,(- y 1.5)) (lineto 0 ,y)
              (lineto 1 ,(- y 1.5)))
            \stencil $orig } #}))))
%%%%

NOTE: I omitted the \once so this will draw on all Hairpins. As such, I shortened the blue line.

Here this is only just for visualizing minimum-space, but it does not account for all of the possible factors that affect vertical positioning. Again note that in my other example, I zeroed out several of the padding properties to make things work.

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On 2019-03-25 4:42 pm, Andrew Bernard wrote:
Hi Aaron,

Thank you for looking into this. As mentioned in my original post, I am not using a Dynamics context as this New Complexity score is very, very complex rhythmically, and it would tale a month to go back and figure out all the spacer rests to use a dynamics context. I'd rather not do that, but I can
see where this is going.

As I showed in my prior email, you do not technically need to do anything a second time. You should be able to instanciate your music twice: once for the \Staff and a second time for \Dynamics. It should only then be a matter of \omitting any dynamics-related grobs from the Staff. Of course, this tactic may not work depending on how "dirty" your music variables are. If they are pretty clean and just represent pitches and durations with dynamics attached, it should work as I showed.

For cases when the music is muddled with things that the \Dynamics context is not by default ignoring, it would fall to the task of using map-some-music and a suitable procedure for extracting only the elements you want. Basically, I agree that you should not have to do extra work. You have already indicated the dynamics you want and when. The tactic now is to leverage the power of the computer to split out the things you want in \Dynamics apart from the things you want on the \Staff.

Unfortunately, I am running a bit out of time to dig into this further. And it could very well have already come up before, so I'd encourage a thorough search through the archives and the LSR.

This was all fine until the score reached a certain number of pages. I
suppose I can go chopping pages out to see what may be going on there. I
tried 2.19.82 and 2.19.83, so I don't think there is an issue with the
version.

I mention again that this started happening as the score grew large, making me think there is some kind of memory management issue lurking around. I am
completely unable to prove this.

I would expect memory bugs to result in crashes rather than simple and consistent misalignment of elements. But stranger things have happened.

You may have another strategy here. You mention that problems happen at scale, so would it make sense to break up the piece into smaller sections that each independently render as expected? It is not elegant for sure; but if the approach unblocks you, I would say elegance should not matter.


-- Aaron Hill

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