Hi Michael
It just takes having to explain something to sort it. Those two
problematic bars are now:
which is much better. I still don't really like the tied quavers where
a crotchet is rung, but then you can't have everything! The relevant
code is:
g8 ~ <g b>8 <g c>8 ~ <g c d>8 <g e>4 <g d>4 | <e g c>8 ~ <d e g b>8 <e
g c>8 ~ <f g c d>8 <e g c>4 <d g b>4 |
for the accompaniment.
Thanks for making me think!
Martin
On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 20:39 +0000, J Martin Rushton wrote:
> Hi Michael
> I've mocked up the same two bars in LibreOffice as tablature:
>
>
> Where you see a dot and a number, the dot indicates half a beat's
> rest, so that row three of the first beat is interpreted as r8
> b8 In the second bar, first beat, the "5 6" is c8 b8 The bolded
> top row indicates the tune, which typically needs to be run a little
> harder whilst the lower bells ring softer. The problem comes with
> setting, for instance, the first beat. I tried using things like
> << \relative c' {\stemDown g'4 <g c>4 g4 <g f>4 } \\ \relative c' {
> s8 b'8 s8 d8 e4 d4 } >> | << \relative c' { <g' e>4 <c g>4 } \\
> \relative c' \autoBeamOff { c'8 <b d,>8 e,8 <d' f,>8 } >> <c' g e>4
> <b g d>4 |
> for the accompaniment but it is horrible and confused. I've a
> feeling that need to change the g'4 in the first beat to g'8 ~ g8 to
> keep all the stems together. I'll report back after testing.
> I hope that that clarifies things a little,
> Martin
> On Sun, 2022-12-04 at 13:14 -0500, Michael Werner wrote:
> > Hi Martin.
> > Well, I'm still pretty new to Lilypond but I have done some
> > handbell music. I don't play them myself - my mother is the
> > musician while I'm her tech support, I guess would be the way to
> > phrase it. My approach with the more complex pieces her group was
> > doing was to generate a somewhat simplified version just for her. I
> > would make sure to retain enough of the main melody line that she
> > could follow it, while cutting out anything else I could. Of course
> > I had to make sure to leave in the notes that she was responsible
> > for. Wouldn't work too well without them. Also I would put a larger
> > callout symbol above each note she rings to help her see them -
> > she's pushing 80 years old and her eyesight is going. While I was
> > at it, I would also produce a complete version. But that was mainly
> > just me playing around and gaining some experience.
> >
> > A lot of that was made a bit easier by just carving up the piece in
> > multiple voices, with each voice going into a variable. Then I
> > could assemble the appropriate piece of music by just calling the
> > variables I needed for that particular version. Lots of
> > possibilities to redo entire scores without having to retype a
> > whole bunch of music.
> >
> > As for handbell tablature I've never seen it. None of the handbell
> > music she has brought home for me to play with has had any
> > tablature, just the "normal" music. Tablature for a few other
> > instruments, yes, but not handbells.
> >
> > Well, this was kind of rambling - sorry about that. Like I said I'm
> > still kinda new to Lilypond. It's been an interesting journey so
> > far, with still quite a long ways to go. Still trying to get a
> > decent grasp on the whole Scheme thing. Oh well. Just gotta keep
> > trying, I guess. Hope maybe something in all this might have helped
> > maybe a bit.
> >
> > Michael
> > On Sun, Dec 4, 2022 at 12:46 PM J Martin Rushton <
> > martinrushto...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Our handbell team rings some pieces from normal scores, and some
> > > from a tablature notation. I had a go at converting one of our
> > > favourite pieces from tablature to scores, but some of the bars
> > > become so complex that I'm not sure this helps at all.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Has anyone else done handbells on Lilypond? As a supplementary
> > > question, does anyone know of any software that can generate
> > > handbell tablatures?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Martin
> > >
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> > > J Martin Rushton MBCS
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