OK, that makes sense. Beginner question: Is this terminology consistent for all properties, that is, *-extent referring to spacing and *-offset to 'real' size?
/henrik Mats Bengtsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Henrik Frisk wrote: > > Your suggested solution seems to be the way to do it. I tried it quickly, > > but the NoteColumn #'force-hshift didn't do anything. Now, that may be > > because I am not using the 2.5 yet and i didn't start looking in the manual > > for a way to achieve this in 2.4. I will upgrade and try again and in any > > event, you have pointed me in the right direction, and I am sure i will be > > able to find out. I am still curious to find out why the Voice.Beam > > #'X-extent and Voice.Beam #'extra-offset doesn't have any effect. This was > > what I tried at first. Anybody knows why me and Daniel are unsuccessful in > > getting the desired effect? > > As far as I know, the Voice.Beam #'X-extent property is only used > when LilyPond tries to determine the (horizontal) spacing between > different objects. In other words, the property does not > change the size of the object, it just tells the collision and > spacing handling how large the object should be considered. Same > goes for extra-X-extent. The extra-offset property, on the other > should definitely work (and does so according to the email below). > > /Mats > > > Daniel Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>Hmm. This is a real puzzler, because even though the Beam object > >>implements the grob-interface, only certain grob properties have any > >>effect. Specifically, I tried the following on a small test file and > >>they did nothing: > >> > >>\once \override Voice.Beam #'X-extent = #'(0 . 15) > >>\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-X-extent = #'(0 . 15) > >> > >>Oddly enough, the following DID have an effect: > >>\once \override Voice.Beam #'extra-offset = #'(0 . 15) > >>but of course I can't really imagine any use for this. > >> > >>Here's an idea: > >> > >>1. Just beam from the first three notes over to the high G-flat. > >>2. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem > >>#'flag-style = #'no-flag, and do a \stemUp. > >>3. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override NoteColumn > >>#'force-hshift = #-1. Adjust this value until the stem is aligned > >>perfectly with the stem of the note in the right hand. > >>4. On the D in the left hand, do a \once \override Voice.Stem #'length = > >>#12 or however long it needs to be to meet up with the beam. > >> > >>I did my research out of the 2.5 manual, so your mileage may vary; but I > >>don't think there's anything especially late-breaking about any of the > >>features I used above. The noteheads of the eighth-notes in the left & > >>right hands won't be horizontally aligned, but their stems will meet the > >>beam in the same place. Is that acceptable? > >> > >>--Daniel > >> > >>Henrik Frisk wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I'm running lilypond 2.4.5 (fink installation) on OSX 10.3.9. Attached to > >>>this mail is an example. Although this bar works OK the way it is, I would > >>>have liked to beam it 1/4+1/8 rather than 1/8+1/8+1/8. Either by > >>>connecting the lower beam of the first 1/8 note group to the stem of the > >>>second eighth note (from a notation point of view this would be unorthodox > >>>since one of the note heads would end up on the wrong side of the stem). > >>>The other way would be to have the beam go below all notes on beat one and > >>>two (counting eihgth notes). > >>> > >>>Here's the code for the bar: > >>> > >>> \time 3/8 > >>> ges'''16~[ \revert Beam #'positions ges64 \change Staff=lower f,32. ] > >>> \change Staff=upper \stemExtend \noFlag ges'8-> \noBeam > >>> \acciaccatura { g32^\pedalc } \change Staff = lower b,,,32 [ \change > >>> Staff = upper f''~ f16~ ] | > >>> > >>>And here are the \noFlag and \stemExtend: > >>> > >>>noFlag = \once \override Stem #'flag-style = #'no-flag > >>>stemExtend = \once \override Stem #'length = #32 > >>> > >>>...and attached is an image. > >>> > >>>This is the first piece I do in LilyPond, so I'm not very experienced yet. > >>>Tahnks for any help. > >>> > >>>/henrik > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > lilypond-user@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > > -- > ============================================= > Mats Bengtsson > Signal Processing > Signals, Sensors and Systems > Royal Institute of Technology > SE-100 44 STOCKHOLM > Sweden > Phone: (+46) 8 790 8463 > Fax: (+46) 8 790 7260 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > WWW: http://www.s3.kth.se/~mabe > ============================================= _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user