Hello Knute,

Thank you for this tutorial. It is just what I needed to understand how
the values work. I had not been able to find something like this in the
LilyPond docs, at least not in such a clear and concise form.

I have been able now to tweak the tie to a shape I am happy with.

Am Freitag, dem 12.09.2025 um 16:28 -0700 schrieb Knute Snortum:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 4:04 PM Hajo Bäß <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Thank you so much for your quick answer. My main difficulty is
> > using
> > values which work and make sense. I have played around with them,
> > but in
> > that case it did not get me somewhere - to the contrary: my
> > slur/tie shape
> > got more and more absurd. The only thing I have understood so far
> > is that
> > the same values make the slur look different when you apply them do
> > a
> > different note. I have seen an example where it looked perfect with
> > "c",but
> > strange with the "g" a fourth lower.
> > 
> 
> (I've included the list again in the CC.  Remember to Reply-All.)
> 
> One thing you can do to help you visualize what is happening with the
> slur
> curve is to change \shape to \vshape.  You still have to change the
> amounts
> manually, but you get a better idea of what you're changing.
> 
> A few tricks will help you create a slur or tie shape that you want:
> 
> (Make sure the following is in a fixed font:)
> 
> \shape #'((0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0) (0 . 0))
>            ^   ^   ^   ^   ^   ^   ^   ^
>            |   |   |   |   |   |   |   |
>            \__/    \__/    \__/    \__/
>              |       |       |       |
>              x and y offset of left end-point
>                       |      |       |
>                       x and y offset of left curve
>                              |       |
>                              x and y offset of right curve
>                                      |
>                                      x and y offset of right end-
> point
> 
> * to move the entire curve up or down without changing its shape,
> change
> all the y offsets the same amount
> * to stretch the curve to the left without changing its shape,
> decrease the
> x offsets of the left endpoint and curve by the same amount
> * to stretch the curve to the right without changing its shape,
> increase
> the x offsets of the right endpoint and curve by the same amount
> * to make the curve arch higher/lower increase/decrease the y offsets
> of
> the two curves
> * if the "bump" of the curve is too right to the left, try increasing
> the
> left curve's x offset
> * if the "bump" of the curve is too far to the right, try decreasing
> the
> the right curves x offset
> 
> The rest is just playing with the values to see what they do.
> 
> --
> Knute Snortum

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