On Thu, 2025-11-20 at 23:31 +0100, Simon Albrecht wrote:
> Hi Richard,
> 
> On 19.11.25 16:57, Richard Shann wrote:
> > for no apparent reason.
> 
> this is a perfectly normal situation, so it’s a stark accusation that
> LilyPond’s developers didn’t set this spacing intentionally.
oh, sorry if it sounded like a complaint.  Werner wrote indicating that
he thought it looked well  and was helpful in large scores. As I
recalled reading that LilyPond wasn't trying to default to contemporary
practice but to "golden age hand engraving" practice, I did spend some
time reading through the philosophy section of the LilyPond website and
then trying to dig out some "golden age of hand engraving" examples - I
got the attached one from a 1930's edition, and it seemed to me that
there was indeed a slight bit of extra space after the key signature
change but not(*) as much as in the LilyPond example I posted. This all
arose actually from a correspondent of mine who reported a player
stumbling over the music at that point because (it seemed to them) the
following note had so much extra spacing. 
No stark accusation was in my mind, honestly, I was guessing it was
something that had never been tweaked. And I do get feedback that the
scores generated by Denemo are the finest the musicians have seen and I
have to point out that it is down to LilyPond, not Denemo :)

Best wishes

Richard
(*) I wonder actually if it isn't down to the fact that in my example
the note after the key change is a wholenote/semibreve rather than a
smaller duration, but I couldn't find an example of that... it could be
that the spacing would ideally be sensitive to that.

>  I haven’t 
> studied this specific issue and can’t give context from memory, but
> I’d 
> very much assume it’s in accordance with best practice.
> 
> So your stark accusation would require stark evidence, and reference
> to 
> stark authority, that it should be done differently.
> 
> Best, Simon

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