On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 09:36:21PM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" <m...@philholmes.net> writes: > > > I'm generally normally quite helpful (or try to be). It was just that > > Graham had given you all the information you needed - you just needed > > to read it and spend a little while wondering what LM could stand for. > > It is agreed-upon best practice _not_ to use those abbreviations on the > general user list.
Yes. However, I must clarify that the email in which I said "They're LM 5 Working on LilyPond projects" was written in June 2008. Over TWO YEARS ago! http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2008-06/msg00588.html This was: - before that material was moved into Usage in 2.13 - before 2.13 even existed -- this was during the 2.11 period! - before we agreed not to use LM abbreviations. > Because it is disingenuous to play guessing games with unsuspecting > beginning users. Agreed. This was part of the motivation for the redesigned website. Users now see "Learning" in a number of places, including the navigation bars. > but then > everybody and his dog jumps in barking at the newcomer who did not > understand Graham's absolutely cryptic remark (imagine not being into > lilypond-devel slang and try reading any sense into it), giving him the > full "unpaid volunteers, scurvy dog" treatment. - user replies to a 26-month-old email - Phil Holmes clarifies it: "Um. Learning Manual 5. Entitled "Working on LilyPond projects". http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-09/msg00471.html - user says "I don't appreciate the condescending response. This is my first experience feeling UNwelcome as a LilyPond newbie." http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2010-09/msg00473.html - I get pissed off because Phil was being completely helpful, and I'm supposed to be the newbie-bashing guy. Was my reaction overblown? Perhaps. But was Phil's "Um." really all that condescending? Does three letters (well, two letters and a punctuation) really imply a "UNwelcome" feeling? Get real. - Graham _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user