Thanks for the comments, No the solutions didn't compile or I just don't
understand what Toine means/meant.  Putting the additional materials in the
layout just ground the program to a halt.  So I am living as it's not the
biggest deal for the exercise- it was just that I was surprised that the
\remove for bar number should not work in the same place as the other
removes AND that it didn't work anywhere else in a score that otherwise
compiled and looked good enough.

As for your example- I don't do that level of tweaking, in fact I change
stem directions and that's about it.  Also I'm probably way overstating my
familiarity with 2.14 as the documents have changed so radically that
unless something doesn't work for me I don't look it up to read more.  so
my structures are probably totally wrong for even that version but happily
work.  When I looked at and used an orchestral template recently the log
file couldn't even tell me the correct thing to correct.  I had to ask and
then spend hours fiddling and I'd rather spend my music time
composing/teaching playing and not trying to untie knots that didn't use to
exist.
Thanks

J


PS I've never gotten anything I've tried to convert-ly to compile.

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