On Tue, 13 Aug 2013 11:09:53 -0700 David Rogers <davidandrewrog...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Richard Shann <richard.sh...@virgin.net> writes: > > > You could have played the entire piece in by the time you have set > > about looking for mistakes in the "automatic" entry systems. > > > Richard: I think "playing the piece in" is what Johan is asking for, > and is exactly what you're saying is a bad idea. I don't think what > Denemo offers can in any sense be called "playing it in". "Entering > it by typing on the keyboard" is more accurate. Even if I use a > musical keyboard, the Denemo method is typing, when you use the musical keyboard (or other MIDI controller) you are playing the music. It is true that you don't have to play the rhythm correctly because it is just taking your pitches, but you are playing the piece, you can't help it. > not playing. It may be > the best method - but "playing" is the wrong word. It is when entering the durations that you can say I am over-egging it calling this "playing in the rhythm", because again, it doesn't matter how rhythmically accurate you are, what actually is being read is the keypress. If you press the wrong key (2 for 3, say) you will get the wrong rhythm entered - you can hear it make the wrong sound effect, and the measure indicator will sound at the wrong point, but still you can get it wrong and have to delete back to where you went wrong. But I am not trying to mislead calling this "playing in the rhythm", I am trying to capture the fact that you can & should be playing the durations in, in time with the music. That is, with practice you can play the rhythmic structure of the line of music keeping in time and so following the musical score that you are transcribing as music not data. Since creating those demos on vimeo I have improved the set of shortcuts so now you can play three keypresses to enter a triplet and two to enter a dotted rhythm. I think the set of sound-effects for the different durations could be improved to make the resultant "music" less irritating - but if you are keying-in rhythmically it does make a rhythmical sound that is related to the rhythm of the piece you are transcribing which justfies calling it playing-in, not typing. > > I've played from a score made by a minor broadway composer from one of > the software systems you're saying doesn't work well (i.e. he really > did play his piece into the computer, in real time, from a midi piano > keyboard). I agree, it was silly and very hard to read because of all > the rhythmic errors - but it was ten years ago and I haven't seen any > such scores lately. I guess because despite all the claims, it doesn't get you what you want is quickly or pleasantly as you would wish. Richard _______________________________________________ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user
