On 27 September 2011 09:59, Ricardo Salveti <ricardo.salv...@linaro.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 3:19 AM, Fathi Boudra <fathi.bou...@linaro.org> wrote:
>> Hi Ricardo,
>>
>> On 27 September 2011 06:23, Ricardo Salveti <ricardo.salv...@linaro.org> 
>> wrote:
>>> Any specific reason why using the build from 0926 as the RC instead of
>>> 0927?
>>
>> According to the schedule, RC images are delivered 3 days before the release,
>> Monday at 16:00 UTC. That's why for Linaro 11.09 RC, it's the the
>> build 20110926.
>>> This is just because the images are created after 00 UTC, so the
>>> images from 0926 are actually the ones built at the beginning of
>>> monday, and not after monday. This is critical for us because we
>>> usually have friday and monday for final integration, and getting the
>>> images created at monday will actually reduce one day of work for us.
>>> One example is that I usually update the base-files package at monday,
>>> but this time the RCs are still using the old base-files package,
>>> requiring then an image respin for the final release.
>>
>> For your specific example, base-files should be updated on Thursday, with
>> Linaro components release. This changes doesn't affect the testing.
>
> Don't know if updating it on thursday would be the best case, but
> sure, it can be done at least at friday.
>
> And it doesn't change the testing, but we need an image respin.
>
>> IMO, we should stick to Monday for the RC images and call for testing.
>> It gives 3 full days to collect the reports and fixes critical issues.
>> Though, using autobuilt images isn't optimal. What about triggering a
>> manual rebuild on Monday at 16:00 UTC to get the RC images?
>> This way it gives some extra time for integration, but not a full day.
>> Unfortunately, the schedule is tight on a monthly release cadence...
>> so we don't have much flexibility.
>
> We could just have a build job scheduled at 16 UTC at offspring, so we
> avoid requiring manual builds. I believe this would be our best option
> (and it usually takes around 3 hours to build all images).

sounds a good compromise.

>>> Then the other question is how are you tracking an image respin during
>>> the call for testing, as you're pointing the image links and not just
>>> the directory containing the images?
>>
>> An image respin is tracked with bugs and is handled by the release
>> response team.
>> The point of contacts are in charge of testing the new images.
>
> Sure, but I also believe we should have a better way to communicate
> the community and others about an image respin, so we avoid people
> testing the images provided by the call for testing email when another
> one is already available.

I'll try to better communicate to our wider community on the testing progress
on linaro-dev ml by doing follow-up on the call for testing mail.

Cheers,

Fathi

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