Michael Stutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > In Section 3 of the Design Science License, it states that
> > distribution of the Object Form of a work under the DSL requires 
> that> "a copy of this License is distributed along with the Work."  
> In many
> > cases, it is easy to include a copy of the license with the Work, 
> for> example when distributing a copy online, or when distributing a
> > full-length book.  However, there are cases where it would be 
> hard to
> > distribute a copy of the License with a Work.
> 
> I am looking into a better way to do this, so that it isn't so much of
> a hassle on the part of the publisher, but so that people also know
> how to get the sources should they want them. It will be clarified in
> an update to the license, which should happen soon. It should not be
> necessary to include a copy of the license when distributing a work in
> object form; including the full sources (which would contain a copy of
> the license with its copyright information) will still be one option,
> but you should be able to include just a written offer for the sources
> or (if you are not a commercial entity), pass along someone else's
> written offer and not include the license at all.

The best way to avoid hassles of this sort is, I think, to simply offer 
a lot of different options; then chances are greater that at least one 
will be practical.  With regards to the particular issue of making the 
license available when distributing the Object Form, I would suggest at 
least the following three options:

(1)  Distributing a copy of the license along with the work, either in 
printed or computerized form.
(2)  Giving a web address where the license may be downloaded.  This has 
already been done; for example, a recent article in the New Scientist 
was copylefted under the DSL and gave the web address for the license on 
the dsl.org site.
(3)  Giving a mailing address where you can send a stamped, self-
addressed envelope and recieve back a printed copy of the License by 
snail-mail.  We could talk to the Free Software Foundation or other 
copyleft advocacy groups who might be willing to provide this service.

Options (2) and (3) should take no more than a few lines of space, which 
should be convenient even for very short documents.

> I expected that some improvements would have to be made to the
> license. This is definitely one of them.

Certainly, given the broad applicability of the DSL, it would be 
impossible to foresee all the possible issues that might come up 
beforehand.

> > An example I've been involved with directly is the following: I and
> > several other students in activist groups at New York University are
> > considering using copyleft with material we create.  A good deal of
> > our material, such as fact sheets, flyers, and short articles, are
> > very short, in many cases no more than a single page.
> 
> You should be able to distribute this material with just a short
> copyright notice, and provide the sources to the material should
> anyone want them.

That's exactly what we were thinking of doing.  I'll keep linart updated 
when we start to do this.

On a different subject: was the idea of making a copylefted alternative 
to the Internet Movie Database ever implemented?  If not, I would be 
interested in doing this.  A discussion (at www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-
and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001ghj; the link seems to be broken, but a 
cached version at Google is available) doesn't say.  I think it would be 
possible to use a variant of "WikiWiki" software (a system for the 
decentralized, open creation and maintenance of websites; see http://
c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiWikiWeb for an introduction to the concept) to 
coordinate such a large project (in particular, I am inspired by the 
example of the surprisingly successful project to build a copylefted 
encyclopedia with WikiWiki at www.wikipedia.com).

Joel Schlosberg



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