Hi Margaret,

I, too, have had the bathrobe-sleeve-in-the-flame Experience. It was at
least 25 years ago making French toast, but the memory rushes back EVERY
time I light the stove.   Always good to have the sink nearby.  Glad you
also had a good outcome.

On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 8:48 AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com>
wrote:

> I am also a huge fan of induction cooktops. In listing their many
> advantages Dennis omitted two:
> - you can’t accidentally dip your bathrobe sleeve in the flame and light
> yourself on fire (yes, sleeve under kitchen faucet put the fire out and no
> one was hurt, but still…)
> - no methane or other pollutants in your house for you to breathe.
>
> Faster and much more control are far more convenient than you can imagine.
> The cooktops tend to have more range than the single burners: their “boost”
> is higher and their low settings lower.
>
> I would also recommend replacing your gas with induction if you can
> afford it.
>
> On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 2:25 AM Dennis Liu <bigheadden...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Fascinating, thanks for sharing.  This small research study has certainly
>> made headlines across the country, as many media outlets have picked up on
>> it.  I admit to some curiosity, as the news hit the big points, but without
>> much context.  So decided to do some simple arithmetic.
>>
>>
>>
>> From the cited study (https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acs.est.1c04707)
>> itself:  "For our methane emission measurements, we scaled our measurements
>> to calculate the total amount of methane emitted from stoves overall,
>> employing the usage patterns reported by Chan et al. and Zhao et al.
>> (18,28) (see the Materials and Methods section). We estimated that an
>> average stove (burners plus oven) emitted 649 [95% CI: 427, 949] g CH4
>> year–1"
>>
>>
>>
>> *So, 649 grams (or 1.43 pounds) of methane emitted by a stove per year
>> (from both in use and when not in use).  Is that . . . a lot?  Is that . .
>> . dangerous?  One would think all of these news stories would provide this
>> context, right??*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Google tells me that a single cow produces 220 pounds of methane per
>> year.  That means that a gas stove produces about 0.65% of the methane a
>> cow does.*
>>
>>
>>
>> There are about 94.8 million cows in the US, and 43.4 million gas
>> stoves/cooktops/ovens.  Which means, overall in the United States per year,
>> all gas appliances produce about 0.3% of the methane that cows do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Which is not intended to diminish the fact that, yes, anything that uses
>> natural gas will generate methane - including those natural gas plants that
>> generate the electricity used for electric appliances.  Also, we should
>> keep in mind, "According to the International Energy Agency (IEA), about 40
>> percent of total
>>
>> global methane emissions occur naturally from sources such as wetlands,
>> geologic seepage, permafrost, and animal secretions.  The remaining 60
>> percent of global methane emissions are anthropogenic (man-made), and the
>> largest portion of these come from agricultural production such as raising
>>
>> livestock and rice production. Fossil fuel production, transportation,
>> and use account for approximately 20 percent (~113 million metric tons) of
>> total global methane emissions, and emissions attributable to gas power are
>> about 3% (17 million metric tons) of the global total."
>>
>>
>>
>> Having said all of this, I cannot emphasize enough how much of a fan of
>> induction cooktops I am.  I will never use conventional electric cooktops
>> again, and I would even switch from gas to induction when economically
>> appropriate.  Induction is that awesome -- its faster than gas, can be more
>> controllable, and WAY, WAY, WAY easier to keep clean.
>>
>>
>>
>> HTH,
>>
>>
>>
>> --Dennis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> On Behalf Of Belinda
>> Gingrich
>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 8:50 PM
>> To: lincoln@lincolntalk.org
>> Subject: [LincolnTalk] Gas leaks
>>
>>
>>
>> The induction stove top at the library is busy making rounds. I feel bad
>> promoting these stoves when its next to impossible to buy a full sized
>> range right now. Hopefully they will repopulate the stores with cars and
>> cat food this spring!
>>
>>
>>
>> This article was in the NYT yesterday about a study which found gas lines
>> and stoves inside the house were leaking methane even when the appliances
>> were off. I shouldn’t have been surprised since we know there are huge
>> numbers of leaks in the natural gas network leading to our houses but I
>> hadn’t imagined they are in our houses as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/climate/gas-stoves-methane-emissions.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy the snow!
>>
>> Belinda
>>
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