Dear Lincoln Talk, IMHO
Isn't simplier? Self-control Rule No. 1: One need not read nor respond to everything posted. (Sometimes taking a vacation does wonders.) For users: The Town Meeting analogy is a good one. Keep discourse civic and civilized on Lincoln Talk at that same level. One can ignore or even go so far as to block within one's own inbox those email sources that one wishes not to see. For moderators: Blocking ad hominem (subtle or direct) and other forms of discourteous words is quite appropriately OK, otherwise not much needs blocking. ***** I wonder about a lot of what's written, but I read many posts anyway, to check my own thinking. Hardly am I omniscient yet, haha. And anyway, if it gets too much for me, there is Rule No. 1. Truly astounding and useful are the work of digging out of information, the different perspectives and analyses, and the personal knowledge/expertise shown in the postings. I have to thank those who do this work, etc. Especially when reading them has changed my opinion/understanding. Probably there is a limit to the digital footprint Lincoln Talk can have as a service. We correspondents get for free. Emails of just text are amazingly small size in bytes, especially in contrast to photographs/digital images. So probably frequency and length of texts only are mostly red herrings for this controversy underway. If there are a lot of emails I don't want, a batch delete is easy enough to perform. Just two clicks. Aside from what is stated above, I don't see much need for blocking, censorship, restrictions. Gordon Woodington p.s. For the Moderators: a good idea??: add a link to the document of Rules for Lincoln Talk to the LT's standard email footer, already containing various links. An easy way to be "Rule-aware", just one click. On Fri, Apr 1, 2022 at 12:59 PM Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> wrote: > Perfectly said Seth! > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > On Fri, Apr 1, 2022, 9:02 AM Seth Rosen <rosen...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Katy, I agree the moderators make the rules. They do this for free, so >> it’s hard to get too pushy. But ultimately they do it because it’s a >> community service, so they want it to add value. >> >> I wonder - is he really “dominating the discussion”? It’s email and it’s >> asynchronous. At town meeting there’s a room full of people with limited >> time and attention — this is not that. No one has to get drawn into the >> debate if they don’t wish to. >> What actually happens in my experience - having read his posts for many >> years. Someone makes a statement or expresses support for a fairly popular >> opinion. Sometimes it’s not very well supported or lacks substance. Lots >> of people throw their support behind that statement, because it appeals to >> the majority. Dennis comes in and provides a detailed thoughtful and >> well-supported analysis of why he disagrees. >> >> When I see those long treatises I don’t feel annoyed that they’re too >> long. I feel grateful that he took the time to propose a counter-narrative >> and even more grateful that he did so knowing that it wasn’t popular. >> >> If we’re looking for neighbors to affirm neighbors, that’s what it’s >> turning into. Candidly I’m encouraged that even the people who don’t agree >> with Dennis at all are chiming in to support him. >> >> Free Dennis! :-) >> >> Seth >> >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 8:36 AM, Katherine Walker <kdwalker1...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Dear Neighbors: >> >> I want to support the right of Lincoln talk to moderate the discussion on >> its forum. They set ground rules that apply to all of us, including Dennis >> Liu. That’s the way Civil society works. The moderator at Town Meeting has >> the similar discretion to shut down individuals when they drone on so that >> other voices can be heard. >> >> Unfortunately, I think Dennis’ long treatises on so many subjects have >> the unintended consequence of suppressing dialogue. Who wants to get drawn >> into his debates? >> >> If Dennis is willing to abide by LT guidelines and not try to dominate >> the discussion, he should be allowed to do so — but only then. >> >> Katy Walker >> >> kdwalker1...@hotmail.com >> 617-281-4890 (cell) >> >> >> >> >> >> On Apr 1, 2022, at 1:30 AM, lincoln-requ...@lincolntalk.org wrote: >> >> Send Lincoln mailing list submissions to >> lincoln@lincolntalk.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> lincoln-requ...@lincolntalk.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> lincoln-ow...@lincolntalk.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Lincoln digest..." >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Tonight at 7 PM: LPS performance of High School Musical, Jr. >> (Jen Zeis) >> 2. FREE Small Styrofoam Coolers (dilla tingley) >> 3. For sale small wine and glass cabinet (aaron beck) >> 4. FS for Lincoln METCO: David Reed signed numbered print $145 >> (Joanna Owen Schmergel) >> 5. bike tun- up (Colleen Katsuki) >> 6. Re: FREE Small Styrofoam Coolers (Myvette Fernandez) >> 7. FS Patagonia Nano Puff Jacket Size S (Margo Fisher-Martin) >> 8. ISO/ apartment (Carol Ryan) >> 9. Please reconsider (Richard Panetta) >> 10. Re: Please reconsider (Barbara Low) >> 11. Re: Please reconsider (V Saleme) >> 12. Re: Please reconsider (Sara Mattes) >> 13. Shout out to Dennis Liu (Joanna Owen Schmergel) >> 14. Re: Please reconsider (Seth Rosen) >> 15. Please reconsider (dgl...@aim.com) >> 16. Re: Please reconsider (Daniela Caride) >> 17. Re: Please reconsider (Pat Gray) >> 18. Re: Please reconsider (Cathy O'Brien) >> 19. Free: Rolling Work Table (Peter Ellis) >> 20. LAWN MOWING (Edmund Stevens) >> 21. Re: Please reconsider (Sasha Golden) >> 22. Dennis needs to be heard (Susanna Joannidis) >> 23. Re: Please reconsider (Bijoy Misra) >> 24. Re: Please reconsider (Sonja Johansson) >> 25. Moderator Response: Please Reconsider (John and Margit Griffith) >> 26. Re: Please reconsider (melinda bruno-smith) >> >> *From: *Jen Zeis <jennifer.z...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] Tonight at 7 PM: LPS performance of High >> School Musical, Jr.* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 9:01:21 AM EDT >> *To: *Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> One show complete, two more to go! >> >> Don't miss tonight's performance of Disney's *High School Musical, Jr.* >> Talented >> and dedicated middle school students, faculty, and staff are excited to >> perform an invigorating and joyful show. >> >> Shows in the Donaldson Auditorium: >> Thursday, March 31 *(tonight!)*, 7 PM >> Friday, April 1, 7 PM >> >> >> *Tickets sold at the door 30 minutes before showtime. * >> Adults $10 >> Students/Seniors/LPS Employees $5 >> Cash or check only; all proceeds go towards the show budget >> >> Running time is approximately one hour with no intermission. >> >> We're all in this together! Come and support the cast and crew of >> *High School Musical, Jr.! * >> >> <image.png> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *dilla tingley <dillating...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] FREE Small Styrofoam Coolers* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 10:40:43 AM EDT >> *To: *Lincoln Talks <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> I have 6 small coolers measuring about 15" square. >> Does anyone have a use for them? >> Dilla >> >> >> >> *From: *aaron beck <aaronquinnb...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] For sale small wine and glass cabinet* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 11:28:30 AM EDT >> *To: *Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> Will hold 24 bottles and a number of glasses. It’s made of wood. $20 and >> it’s yours. >> >> Aaron >> 571.332.3947 >> >> <image.jpg><image.jpg> >> >> Aaron >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Joanna Owen Schmergel <owenjoa...@yahoo.com> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] FS for Lincoln METCO: David Reed signed >> numbered print $145* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 2:12:37 PM EDT >> *To: *Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Lincoln METCO >> Coordinating Committee, a 501(c)3 here in Lincoln: >> >> David Reed, 1989, stamped, signed, numbered print, 88/450 >> >> From our very first Back Bay donor! >> >> We believe the artist is from Ontario. >> >> Beautifully framed, matted and ready to hang >> >> 22.25” X 17.75” >> >> $145 >> >> <IMG_5787.JPG> >> >> <IMG_5788.JPG> >> >> <IMG_5789.JPG> >> >> <IMG_5790.JPG> >> >> Please see the link below for more photos: >> >> David Reed signed numbered stamped print - arts & crafts - by owner... >> <https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/art/d/lincoln-david-reed-signed-numbered/7465296451.html> >> >> >> David Reed signed numbered stamped print - arts & crafts - by owner... >> For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Lincoln METCO >> Coordinating Committee, a 501(c)3 here in Lincoln: David Reed, 1989, >> stamped, signed, numbered print, 88/450 From our very first Back... >> >> <https://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/art/d/lincoln-david-reed-signed-numbered/7465296451.html> >> >> Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase at 617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 >> Cerulean Way. >> >> Serious inquiries only please. >> >> The Lincoln MCC’s ongoing estate sales fundraiser, Downsize for >> Diversity, now Downsize for Diversity ART, has, since 2017, netted >> $135,351 towards our original goal of $100k. This enables us to nourish a >> policy-governed investment fund to help pay for Lincoln MCC school >> year activities in perpetuity. >> >> All sales are final and all items are sold “As Is”. >> >> These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites. >> >> Downsize for Diversity ART!! >> >> Warmly, >> >> Joanna Schmergel >> The Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee >> Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)! >> Lincoln Massachusetts Public Schools >> 617-645-9059 >> owenjoa...@yahoo.com >> >> Yes We CAN!! >> >> Check out our new book on Book Baby! >> >> It’s for anyone who wants a perfect blueprint for downsizing OR for >> raising money for a not for profit! All funds go to Lincoln MCC! >> >> DOWNSIZE FOR DIVERSITY How We Raised $122,000 with a Pickup Truck and a >> Little Help from Our Friends by Joanna Schmergel and Marika Hamilton >> Link to buy: >> >> <https://store.bookbaby.com/book/downsize-for-diversity> >> https://store.bookbaby.com/boo... >> <https://store.bookbaby.com/book/downsize-for-diversity> >> Lincoln MCC >> >> *Our Vision:* >> >> The MCC supports building a strong, anti-racist community in which >> students and families with different life experiences feel a deep sense of >> inclusion and belonging and recognize, accept, and celebrate each other's >> differences. We also support the METCO program by activating caregivers to >> help attain its goals and priorities. >> >> *Our Mission:* >> >> We will achieve our vision by: >> >> >> - Creating opportunities for Lincoln resident and Boston resident >> students and caregivers to build authentic and lasting relationships and >> an equitable exchange of welcoming experiences in both Boston and Lincoln >> (e.g., opportunities for social connection, after school programming for >> children, summer camp) >> - Supporting the school and community in its Anti-racism, Inclusion, >> Diversity and Equity (AIDE) work (e.g., district NCBI training, >> caregiver education) >> - Advocating and supporting the METCO program at both a State and >> Local level >> - Organizing resources (funding, volunteers) in support of the METCO >> team with their work >> - Advocating for conditions that will promote a truly integrated >> public school environment (e..g. inclusive curriculum, vision for >> integration, etc.) >> >> >> Learn about the Lincoln METCO Coordinating Committee here: >> >> https://lincolnmcc.wpcomstaging.com >> >> <IMG_5787.JPG><IMG_5788.JPG><IMG_5789.JPG><IMG_5790.JPG> >> >> >> *From: *Colleen Katsuki <coll...@shadowtracks.org> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] bike tun- up* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 3:12:52 PM EDT >> *To: *"lincoln@lincolntalk.org" <Lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> >> I have a recumbent bike that needs a Spring tune up. Is there anybody >> here in town who can help me with that? >> >> >> >> Colleen Katsuki >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Myvette Fernandez <myfernande...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **Re: [LincolnTalk] FREE Small Styrofoam Coolers* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 3:45:34 PM EDT >> *To: *dilla tingley <dillating...@gmail.com> >> *Cc: *Lincoln Talks <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> Hello! >> >> Do you have any of the coolers left? >> >> Myvette Fernandez >> >> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:41 AM, dilla tingley <dillating...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> I have 6 small coolers measuring about 15" square. >> Does anyone have a use for them? >> Dilla >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Margo Fisher-Martin <margo.fisher.mar...@gmail.com> >> *Subject: **[LincolnTalk] FS Patagonia Nano Puff Jacket Size S* >> *Date: *March 31, 2022 at 4:46:18 PM EDT >> *To: *lincoln@lincolntalk.org >> >> >> Hi, >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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