Is it true that to vote on December 2, a resident must be registered for this specific vote only?
That seems shady. I can understand the need to register to vote in the Town but why register AGAIN for this specific voting opportunity? I’ve never heard of such a thing. My mom would like to vote. She has been very occupied with other big issues. I don’t think she should be disenfranchised from voting because of this? She has been registered to vote in this Town and is a Lincoln resident since 1975. Christi Damico Lincoln/WA > On Nov 24, 2023, at 1:29 AM, lincoln-requ...@lincolntalk.org wrote: > > Send Lincoln mailing list submissions to > lincoln@lincolntalk.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > lincoln-requ...@lincolntalk.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > lincoln-ow...@lincolntalk.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Lincoln digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Thankful to live in Lincoln (Danielle Pierce) > 2. deCordova I Store Thanksgiving Weekend Shopping Hours > (Mary Balogh) > 3. Re: How many housing units at Lincoln Station? (Margaret Olson) > 4. Re: What is the REAL tax increase for the CC project? (Andy Wang) > 5. Re: How many housing units at Lincoln Station? > (?Sarah Postlethwait) > 6. 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Re: Thankful to live in Lincoln (Terri) > 21. For Sale: Men?s MOTO snowboard boots size 11.5. Very good > condition. $40 (Richard Theriault) > 22. non-turkey Thanksgiving (Bijoy Misra) > 23. For Decades, Southern States Considered Thanksgiving an Act > of Northern Aggression (Sara Mattes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 22:21:03 -0400 > From: Danielle Pierce <daniellewpie...@gmail.com> > To: John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> > Cc: LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > Message-ID: > <CAFdo4aCtSojX=voqukmm+a2k-fgjzxj-h8yeyaa+8rbgdns...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > With all due respect, this is a huge issue that is being voted on very > soon. Moreover, there seem to be a lot of things that are only now being > discovered. If people want to talk, they should. If people don?t want to > talk or listen, they shouldn?t. But trying to silence people at this point > in the process sounds huge alarm bells. > > Danielle Pierce > > > (Sent from my phone; apologies for formatting issues) > > >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 9:49 PM John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >> >> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >> >> John >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >> . >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231122/b8b9d054/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:30:00 -0500 > From: Mary Balogh <melizabethbal...@gmail.com> > To: LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] deCordova I Store Thanksgiving Weekend Shopping > Hours > Message-ID: > <cajmpjvnwq3oc9uusa-os-ymjgmfzmdckwzkuatph9mfywjh...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > HAPPY THANKSGIVING to you from the deCordova Store! > Our Thanksgiving weekend hours are: > > *FRIDAY: 10am - 4pm* *GREEN FRIDAY:* *Take the **Gratitude and Awe Family > Hike *https://thetrustees.org/event/85855/*, and then stop by the store to > see what's new for the holidays!* > *SATURDAY: 10am - 5pm* *SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY - Shop small, shop local, > shop at a not-for-profit!* > *SUNDAY: 10am - 5pm*. *MUSEUM STORE SUNDAY** - Members double their store > discount to 20%!* > > > [image: image.png] > > The Trustees | *deCordova Sculpture Park and Museum* > 51 Sandy Pond Road? |? Lincoln, MA 01773 > 781.259.8692 Store > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/58c37b6a/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image.png > Type: image/png > Size: 4471 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/58c37b6a/attachment-0001.png> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 07:48:07 -0500 > From: Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> > To: ?Sarah Postlethwait <sa...@bayhas.com> > Cc: Laurie Gray <lbg...@gmail.com>, lincoln@lincolntalk.org > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station? > Message-ID: > <cahqz9n3vl003b9-o74heyaz90voexydelcz+vw-91ekv6rt...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I > was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it. > > Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete > draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback > before it is up for the vote at town meeting. > > Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special > permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and > the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is > a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power. > > Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both > the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of > the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working > draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state. > > Margaret > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <sa...@bayhas.com> > wrote: > >> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density >> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.? >> >> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying. >> >> >> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3 >> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the >> current draft of the village center bylaws? >> >> Sarah Postlethwait >> >> Lewis Street >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve >>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will be >>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an >>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before the >>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent >>> it will be published on the town website. >>> >>> >>> >>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? <sa...@bayhas.com> >>> wrote:? >>> >>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those of >>>> us who are especially concerned about the mall development would embrace an >>>> incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to handle. >>>> Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with the owner >>>> of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA to be allowed >>>> at this time. >>>> >>>> Some history: >>>> >>>> ??? >>>> >>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3 >>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being proposed >>>> in >>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre. >>>> >>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned >>>> parcels. >>>> >>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels. >>>> >>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference >>>> >>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom. >>>> >>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate >>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south >>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area. >>>> >>>> ??? >>>> >>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG >>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 acres >>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do. >>>> >>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not >>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of 25 >>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107 >>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being proposed >>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could be >>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?) >>>> >>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a >>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the >>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even if >>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and nothing >>>> would get built. >>>> >>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion of >>>> the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is working >>>> with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and ?Based on >>>> current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a financially >>>> viable project? >>>> >>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of >>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the >>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting). >>>> >>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building >>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning bylaw >>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for any >>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this was >>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or >>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See photo >>>> below) >>>> >>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted here >>>> once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew Consigli is >>>> the owner of Civico development. >>>> >>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be >>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of >>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and >>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the >>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting. >>>> >>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of >>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development >>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <lbg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few >>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how >>>>> important it is for the future of our town. I have wondered if people >>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer >>>>> together than it seems. A question I have for Lincoln talk and the >>>>> greater >>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln >>>>> station? I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln >>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different views >>>>> on how much housing. >>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more >>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental approach, >>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further >>>>> decisions at a later point. But what is this number and how do we arrive >>>>> at this number? What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but not >>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life? >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image_123650291.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 261039 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.jpe> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 1FB3E4C7-58AC-4104-809C-1030CA33F30F.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 422928 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/0ea256ce/attachment-0001.jpeg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:16:21 -0500 > From: Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> > To: Edward Young <nedyoun...@icloud.com> > Cc: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC > project? > Message-ID: > <caefvrnh0-xvnwxyrdgykj2-hzbf-bjpcwasjdqqjm4zthwr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as 'Estimated > tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also for the FY23 > Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of $17,488), so > it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also the chart on > the right of that same slide that provides details on the impact based on > how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, $20M, $25M) of a > CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. > > The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are > for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the > three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the > upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. > Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your > property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. > > Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing > out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. > > - Andy (not the FinCom one...) > > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < > lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: > >> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax >> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far LOWER >> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals, >> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773 >> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >> >> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on >> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up >> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >> information. >> >> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >> >> Edward Young >> Bedford Road >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >> . >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/44e4e16c/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:30:58 -0500 > From: ?Sarah Postlethwait <sa...@bayhas.com> > To: Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> > Cc: Laurie Gray <lbg...@gmail.com>, lincoln@lincolntalk.org > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] How many housing units at Lincoln Station? > Message-ID: > <CAH9ufVu-nio+sUdtmxMBNzfQ9GC=ak_hiqeridbtea7bxu7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > With all due respect, > > If the town is voting on an option that is being advertised as 3 stories, > 42? maximum, and 25 units an acre maximum- it should be impossible for > anything higher or denser to be permitted unless by town meeting vote. This > is what the town is expecting the bylaws to reflect, and what they are > assuming when voting in a week on the proposed options. > > Furthermore, This ?wiggle room? clause was not included in every > Subdistrict of the draft bylaws. It was only included in the village center > portion. > > And if you look directly above it, a note about adjusting the draft bylaws > based on the wishes of a developer, Andrew Consigli, is written in. > > It?s very clear that the developers want 4 story/48? buildings, and no lot > coverage restrictions, and limited commercial and parking requirements. It > is astonishing to me that we are handing it to them on a silver platter > while telling the town a completely different story. Draft or not, these > are very concerning points that the public should be aware of when being > asked to unnecessarily include the Village Center into the HCA rezoning in > a week at town meeting. > > Sarah Postlethwait > > Lewis St > > > On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 7:48?AM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> > wrote: > >> Yes, the current draft permits additional height by special permit. All I >> was trying to say is that if it?s not in the zoning we can?t do it. >> >> Please note that this is an early incomplete draft. Once it is a complete >> draft there will be public hearings at which citizens can give feedback >> before it is up for the vote at town meeting. >> >> Generally there is a trade off between wiggle room in the form of special >> permits and specificity. If the zoning is more specific both the town and >> the applicant know exactly what will and will not be permitted. If there is >> a special permit the town (and neighbors) have negotiating power. >> >> Since we currently have a working document you will see places where both >> the specific and the special permit are written in. This is an artifact of >> the drafting process. There is reason we haven?t published the working >> draft: it?s hard to follow in it?s current state. >> >> Margaret >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 10:52 PM ?Sarah Postlethwait <sa...@bayhas.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The current bylaw draft states ?additional Height, Stories, and Density >>> may be allowed by a Special Permit granted by the Planning board.? >>> >>> This seems to directly contradict what you are saying. >>> >>> >>> If the planning board is unable to allow by special permit more than 3 >>> stories, more than 42? or more than 25 UPA?. why is this included in the >>> current draft of the village center bylaws? >>> >>> Sarah Postlethwait >>> >>> Lewis Street >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:46?PM Margaret Olson <s...@margaretolson.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Note: neither the RLF nor Civico can "ask the planning board" to approve >>>> anything that is not permitted in the zoning. It is the zoning you will be >>>> voting on in March. As Sarah notes, the HCA zoning by-law is currently an >>>> incomplete working draft. There will be multiple public hearings before the >>>> March town meeting on the zoning, and once the draft is somewhat coherent >>>> it will be published on the town website. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ?On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:29?PM ??Sarah Postlethwait?? < >>>> sa...@bayhas.com> wrote:? >>>> >>>>> This is a really great approach to the mall debate, and I think those >>>>> of us who are especially concerned about the mall development would >>>>> embrace >>>>> an incremental rezoning to see what the town infrastructure is able to >>>>> handle. Unfortunately, it sounds like the developer who is in talks with >>>>> the owner of the mall, the RLF, does not want anything less than 25 UPA to >>>>> be allowed at this time. >>>>> >>>>> Some history: >>>>> >>>>> ??? >>>>> >>>>> Option C, D1, D2 & D3 all include the RLF/mall, Dohertys garage and 3 >>>>> town owned parcels/commuter lots, a total of 7.1 acres are being proposed >>>>> in >>>>> the village center to be rezoned at 25 units per acre. >>>>> >>>>> 125 units would be allowed to be developed on the non town owned >>>>> parcels. >>>>> >>>>> 53 additional units could be built on the town owned parcels. >>>>> >>>>> Oriole landing has 60 units for reference >>>>> >>>>> And there are 2078 units in Lincoln currently without counting Hanscom. >>>>> >>>>> Option E asks the town to bring the mall development as a separate >>>>> matter to town meeting. It also allows 144 additional units in south >>>>> Lincoln to be built on top of what is already built in this area. >>>>> >>>>> ??? >>>>> >>>>> At the 11/8 HCAWG morning meeting, the RLF representative of the HCAWG >>>>> seemed to state that it?s difficult to fit even 85 units on their 4 acres >>>>> while keeping Donelans and the Post office, as they have promised to do. >>>>> >>>>> I asked the HCAWG and the RLF rep at this meeting why they would not >>>>> consider reducing the UPA (units per acre) to 15 at the mall instead of 25 >>>>> UPA. That would allow for 60 units on the RLF portion alone, and 107 >>>>> units in the entire Village district- plus all of what was being proposed >>>>> in the rest of Options C-D3. If they wanted more in the future it could be >>>>> taken to town meeting (this seems to be what you are proposing now?) >>>>> >>>>> The RLF rep stated that ?it would be the difference between a >>>>> development happening and no development happening?. Implying that the >>>>> developer they are working with would not accept less than 25 UPA, even if >>>>> they can?t build that many units now, and they would walk away and nothing >>>>> would get built. >>>>> >>>>> Civico has expressed its need for 25 UPA to redevelop the RLF portion >>>>> of the mall (100 units). From the HCAWG SOTT slide deck: ?RLF is >>>>> working with a developer known to and trusted by the Town: CIVICO? and >>>>> ?Based on current analysis, a minimum of 25 units/acre is needed for a >>>>> financially viable project? >>>>> >>>>> In addition to the 100 units being proposed at the mall, TCB (owners of >>>>> Lincoln Woods) is in negotiations with the town for development on the >>>>> large commuter lot (discussed during the 11/20 Planning board meeting). >>>>> >>>>> All HCAWG presentations to date have stated that the tallest building >>>>> allowed would be 42? and 3 stories at the mall. However, the zoning bylaw >>>>> draft discussed 11/20 actually allowed 48? and 4 stories by right for any >>>>> buildings 100? away from the Lincoln road. After some push back, this was >>>>> adjusted to 42? and 3 stories by right and anything higher than 42? or >>>>> denser than 25UPA could be permitted by Planning Board Approval. (See >>>>> photo >>>>> below) >>>>> >>>>> And the bylaw draft also stated ?More requirements may be inserted >>>>> here once a discussion with Andrew Consigli takes place?. Andrew >>>>> Consigli is the owner of Civico development. >>>>> >>>>> Obviously this is just a draft of the proposed bylaws and can be >>>>> adjusted even further in the future- but it?s a perfect example of >>>>> discussions that are happening out of public eye with the developers and >>>>> what they intend to ask the planning board to build once one of the >>>>> proposed options are passed at town meeting. >>>>> >>>>> Many people who are in support of Option E are also fully in support of >>>>> development at the mall. We just want thoughtful, controlled development >>>>> that isn?t too much for our town infrastructure to handle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sarah Postlethwait >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023 at 8:19?AM Laurie Gray <lbg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I still feel relatively new to this HCA debate, but in the past few >>>>>> weeks I have been following the debate closely as I am realizing how >>>>>> important it is for the future of our town. I have wondered if people >>>>>> appearing to be on opposite sides of the debate are actually closer >>>>>> together than it seems. A question I have for Lincoln talk and the >>>>>> greater >>>>>> community is: how many additional housing units do we want in Lincoln >>>>>> station? I think many agree we need additional housing in the Lincoln >>>>>> Station area but it is unclear to me if people have widely different >>>>>> views >>>>>> on how much housing. >>>>>> To me, it is hard to know what life would be like in Lincoln with more >>>>>> housing units at the station, so I am in favor of an incremental >>>>>> approach, >>>>>> where we can try out some number of units first and then make further >>>>>> decisions at a later point. But what is this number and how do we arrive >>>>>> at this number? What number is high enough to feel "substantial" but not >>>>>> so high that we destroy quality of life? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>>> Browse the archives at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>>> >>>>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: image_123650291.JPG > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 261039 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.jpe> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: 1FB3E4C7-58AC-4104-809C-1030CA33F30F.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 422928 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/a3578e07/attachment-0001.jpeg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:53:18 -0500 > From: Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> > To: Michael Dembowski <mjdembow...@gmail.com> > Cc: andyrw...@gmail.com, "Listserv, Listserv" > <Lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Radical change in Lincoln > Message-ID: <34795ef8-27cf-4c7c-ab57-9135941f6...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/6f5bc27b/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:46:31 +0000 (UTC) > From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <owenjoa...@yahoo.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: $950 Correia Art Glass > "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? diameter, handmade, > signed, $295!! > Message-ID: <1116021225.7118927.1700754391...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!? > Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!? > Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!? > Now even MORE price?reductions!? > We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!! > We have $3,578?more to go!!? > And we are STILL taking donations!!? > See all of our available?listings here!? > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh > For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, a > 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including > Lincoln:? > $950?Correia Art Glass "Lilac and Black Iris" VASE, 12? tall, 7.75? diameter, > handmade, signed, $295!!? > Finest art glass in the world!? > Signed and in perfect condition!!? >> From a very generous Lincoln donor > Current retail: $950 > Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries? > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Correia Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE 8620 - Priceless Galleries > > LILAC AND BLACK IRIS Limited Edition: VASE 8620 Hand Signed: Yes and Dated > Condition: Excellent Size 12 X 7 Provenance: New with COA. Certificate of > Authenticity: Yes > | | > > | > > | > > > Our Price: $295!! > > Please see the link below for more photos: > Correia Art Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE - arts & crafts - by owner - sale > - craigslist? > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Correia Art Glass Lilac and Black Iris VASE - arts & crafts - by owner - > sale - craigslist > > For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, a > 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including > Lincoln: $950 Correia Art Glass Lilac and... > | | > > | > > | > > > Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh > > Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 > Cerulean Way. ? > > *Giant dog is friendly? > > Serious inquiries only please.? > > ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?. > > These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.? > > Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site > > Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative > has netted $36,422?since?January 2023. > > BBI?s Mission: > Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction > between city and suburban families > > Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here: > > https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/ > > > > ?Warmly, > Joanna Owen Schmergel? > 617-645-9059 > owenjoa...@yahoo.com > pronouns: she/her/hers > The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3) > > Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) > > Boston Bridges Initiative? > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Boston Bridges Initiative > > > | | > > | > > | > > > > > > (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was originally > started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, Lincoln > METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 from 2017 > to 2022). > > As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston: > > https://www.cbsnews.com/boston... > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/8da0ece4/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4109.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2917441 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/8da0ece4/attachment-0001.jpeg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:48:24 -0500 > From: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > To: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > Cc: John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com>, LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > Message-ID: > <CA+ZAMmfOVLgH+PLyC6bmNpa1d=gfrAnfu6hMAce=ryptpgy...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! > > We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > wrote: > >> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. >> >> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >> keep coming. Help admin! >> >> Donald >> >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> on behalf of John >> Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >> *To:* LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >> >> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >> >> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >> >> John >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >> . >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/b7c1747d/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 10:54:19 -0500 > From: V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> > To: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > Cc: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com>, LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > Message-ID: > <CAJDdKYHrwDWXCP=Tsrb31iPrSSsbe=mhkv1tfimickxb9wz...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Thanks and happy Thanksgiving to you as well Scott and everyone else! > > Vic > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 10:48?AM Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! >> >> We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete >> button. >> >> Kind Regards, >> >> Scott Clary >> 617-968-5769 >> >> Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors >> >> On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am >>> overwhelmed. This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they >>> should send multiple emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. >>> >>> I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they >>> keep coming. Help admin! >>> >>> Donald >>> >>> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> on behalf of John >>> Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM >>> *To:* LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>> *Subject:* [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln >>> >>> >> We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA >>> chatter on Lincoln Talk? >>> >>> My in-box and peace of mind could use it. >>> >>> John >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >> . >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/72e1b7e1/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:07:48 +0000 > From: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > To: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > Cc: John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com>, LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > Message-ID: > > <bl1pr14mb5046706c9c74be62d1c385c8ca...@bl1pr14mb5046.namprd14.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week > packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a > retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning. > > It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this > Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean > that someone else does not. > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM > To: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > Cc: John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com>; LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > > Happy Thanksgiving Lincoln! > > We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button. > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors > > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca > <dfonseca2...@outlook.com<mailto:dfonseca2...@outlook.com>> wrote: > I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am overwhelmed. > This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they should send multiple > emails, often in bold, on a daily basis. > > I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they keep > coming. Help admin! > > Donald > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: Lincoln > <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org<mailto:lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org>> on > behalf of John Mendelson > <johntmendel...@gmail.com<mailto:johntmendel...@gmail.com>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM > To: LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org<mailto:lincoln@lincolntalk.org>> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > > We are all lucky to live here. Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA > chatter on Lincoln Talk? > > My in-box and peace of mind could use it. > > John > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org<mailto:Lincoln@lincolntalk.org>. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/d628ed5a/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 11:48:01 -0500 > From: Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> > To: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > Cc: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com>, LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln > Message-ID: <b52575e4-30cf-4ec8-a84e-0b7553646...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/f2f9d11e/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 12 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:57:06 +0000 (UTC) > From: Joanna Owen Schmergel <owenjoa...@yahoo.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] FS: For Sale for BBI: Correia Art Glass perfume > bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed $65 > Message-ID: <308933232.7426119.1700758627...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Give the gift of?art this holiday season while supporting a worthy cause!? > Easy, convenient?shopping right here in Lincoln!? > Just 3?weeks left to shop before we shut down for the holidays!!? > Now even?MORE price?reductions!? > We have a $40,000?goal by December 15th!!! > We have $3,578?more to go!!? > And we are STILL taking donations!!? > See all of our available?listings here!? > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh > For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, a > 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including > Lincoln:? > For the woman who has everything:? > Correia Art Glass perfume bottle with top, 6? tall, handmade & signed? > Finest art glass in the world!? > Signed and in perfect condition!!? >> From a very generous Lincoln donor > Our Price: $65 > > Please see the link below for more photos: > Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts & crafts - by owner - sale - > craigslist? > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Correia Art Glass Perfume bottle with top - arts & crafts - by owner - > sale - craigslist > > For sale, with 100% of all proceeds going to the Boston Bridges Initiative, a > 501(c)3 here in the Boston MetroWest supporting all METCO groups including > Lincoln: Correia Art Glass perfume bottle... > | | > > | > > | > > > Please check out other artwork for sale on our?Facebook Marketplace page: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/profile/548801771/?ref=permalink&tab=listings&mibextid=6ojiHh > > Please call Joanna Schmergel to purchase?at?617-645-9059. Pickup at 18 > Cerulean Way. ? > > *Giant dog is friendly? > > Serious inquiries only please.? > > ?All sales are final and all items are sold ?As Is?. > > These items are cross-posted for sale on other sites.? > > Payment in cash,?check or credit card on site > > Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together)?Boston Bridges Initiative > has netted $36,422?since?January 2023. > > BBI?s Mission: > Facilitate cultural exchange and promote meaningful social interaction > between city and suburban families > > Learn more about the Boston Business Initiative here: > > https://bostonbridgesinitiative.org/ > ?Warmly, > Joanna Owen Schmergel? > 617-645-9059 > owenjoa...@yahoo.com > pronouns: she/her/hers > The Boston Bridges Initiative, a 501(c)(3) > > Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) > > Boston Bridges Initiative? > > > | > | > | > | | | > > | > > | > | > | | > Boston Bridges Initiative > > > | | > > | > > | > > > > > > (The Downsize for Diversity ART (Anti-Racist Together) program was originally > started by the 501(c)(3) organization, Friends of Lincoln METCO, Lincoln > METCO Coordinating Committee, in Lincoln, MA, and raised $170,000 from 2017 > to 2022). > > As seen on?WBZ CBS News Boston: > > https://www.cbsnews.com/boston... > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/c1fac885/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_4126.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 2739725 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/c1fac885/attachment-0001.jpeg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 12:00:00 -0500 > From: Ran Cronin <rcro...@minlib.net> > To: lincoln@lincolntalk.org > Subject: [LincolnTalk] December Happenings at the Lincoln Public > Library > Message-ID: > <cah+owxgikrtponkwqcjio3avfzvukwlkkfr+s_b4wfm00vx...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Here are just a few of the many events happening at LPL in December: > > The Nutcracker: A Preview > > Friday, December 1, 4-5 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-nutcracker-a-preview-3/>Join > us for a reading of The Nutcracker geared to young children accompanied by > dancers from the Commonwealth Ballet Company acting out some of the parts. > Children get to meet the dancers after the reading. > > The Boston Tea Party: A ?What Was? Book Discussion! > > Wednesday, December 6, 3-4 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/> > > Celebrate "America's 250!" Join us for a discussion of the book What Was > the Boston Tea Party? to commemorate the 250th anniversary of the notorious > Dec 16, 1773 event. Books will be available at the Children's Desk to be > read in advance. This event is perfect for families interested in history. > Best for ages 6+ but anyone is welcome. Discussion, craft, and light > refreshments served. Registration is limited to 30 for this > discussion. Register > here > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/the-boston-tea-party-a-what-was-book-discussion/> > ! > > VIRTUAl Boston Tea Party at the 250th Anniversary > > Thursday, December 7, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/>This > year marks the 250th anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, a political > protest that occurred on December 16, 1773 in Boston. Bringing vividly to > life the diverse array of people and places that the Tea Party brought > together ? from Chinese tea-pickers to English businessmen, Native American > tribes, sugar plantation slaves, and Boston?s ladies of leisure ? > Professor Benjamin > L. Carp will share with us how a determined group of New Englanders shook > the foundations of the British Empire, and what this has meant for > Americans since. > > Benjamin L. Carp is the Daniel M. Lyons Professor of American History at > Brooklyn College and teaches at the Graduate Center of the City University > of New York. His latest book is The Great New York Fire of 1776: A Lost > Story of the American Revolution. He also wrote Defiance of the Patriots: > The Boston Tea Party and the Making of America (Yale, 2010), which won the > Cox Book Prize from the Society of the Cincinnati in 2013, and Rebels > Rising: Cities and the American Revolution (Oxford, 2007). Register here! > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/virtual-boston-tea-party-at-the-250th-anniversary/> > > LOMA Open Mike featuring Geoff Goodhue & Friends > > Tuesday, December 12, 7-10 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/loma-open-mike-featuring-geoff-goodhue-friends/>Raised > in Boxford, Massachusetts, Geoff graduated from Ohio University in 2004 > with a B.F.A. in Percussion Performance and currently lives in Jackson, New > Hampshire. His family outfit, The Goodhues Band, was featured at the 2016 > Mountain Laurel Autoharp Gathering. Come listen to Geoff and his friends! > LOMA is a monthly open mike night event. For a slot, performers should > email Rich Eilbert at loma...@gmail.com (before noon of the open-mike day) > or sign up at the event. > > Gingerbread Fun! > > Wednesday, December 12, 4-5:30 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/gingerbread-fun-2/>Get > into the holiday spirit with gingerbread stories and cookie decorating! All > materials will be provided. Intended for children aged 5+. Register is > required. Register by emailing dleop...@minlib.net. > > VIRTUAL Brain Health with Dr. Jonathan Rosand > > Thursday, December 14, 7-8 PM, Register for Zoom Link > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/>Join > us for a talk about brain health with Critical Care Neurologist Jonathan > Rosand, MD. Dr. Rosand?s talk will focus on brain care and brain health > prevention, with a specific focus on lifestyle behaviors and modifications > that can help one delay or prevent the incidence of dementia and late in > life depression. He?s spoken about this topic many times over the years, > and will have a series of slides to share and time for questions at the > end. Register here! > > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/brain-health-with-dr-jonathan-rosand/> > > A Gathering of Celtic and Christmas with Jeff Snow > > Friday, December 15, 12:30-1:30 PM at Bemis Hall, Council on Aging & Health > Services > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/a-gathering-of-celtic-and-christmas-with-jeff-snow/>Join > us for a celebration of Celtic and Christmas music at Bemis Hall, Council > on Aging & Health Services! Jeff Snow is a talented multi-instrumentalist > who plays the music and tells the stories behind the songs. He plays six > and twelve string guitar, autoharp, Celtic Bouzouki & Bodhran. Learn more > about Jeff?s music at his website, jeffsnow.net, and come hear him play! > > Lincoln Film Society Presents The Icestorm (1997, R) > > Thursday, December 21, 6-8 PM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/lincoln-library-film-society-64/> > > ?In the 1970s, an outwardly wholesome family begins cracking at the seams > over the course of a tumultuous Thanksgiving break. Frustrated with his > job, the father, Ben (Kevin Kline), seeks fulfillment by cheating on his > wife, Elena (Joan Allen), with neighborhood seductress Janey (Sigourney > Weaver). The family's strained relations continue to tighten until an ice > storm strikes.? Some films may not be suitable for patrons under the age of > 16. Sign up for the mailing list here > <https://c45b8245.sibforms.com/serve/MUIFAGC-bWE9p6L6ouTPFdRYv4UT7Ul5jXigcFFTvq1jtppHhQdYAdo2C40AdxHsVn993vxhMwlRKfkOVFQumgxrJbYLbDjxuo1eUT_des9jgZPq0VWsY118_x16XBUmUEZ5upGYah59OdZkI6eYm5Hg0YH9_ZtkCKx_tsrnrnLx_kNHwDQIMyex37rE4q4hWApA-_hCsiEeC5x4> > . > > Winter Musics and Muffins > > Friday, December 29, 10:30-11 AM, Tarbell Room, Lincoln Public Library > <https://lincolnpl.assabetinteractive.com/calendar/winter-movies-and-muffins-3/> > > Come watch winter themed film versions of classic picture books and enjoy > muffins and juice. Intended for children ages 2+. No registration required. > > Looking for more events at the Library? > > Library Linc <https://loom.ly/MSCnfGE> is our new weekly e-newsletter. > Subscribe to keep up to date on our latest events, services, and news every > Friday! > > > -- > Ran Cronin > Assistant Director > Lincoln Public Library <https://www.lincolnpl.org/> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/bb84d581/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 13:59:53 -0500 > From: Stephen Dirrane <stephen.dirr...@gmail.com> > To: Edwina Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] Free stone dust > Message-ID: <3d0e4300-333b-4db9-8631-cba618e1c...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Hello LincolnTalk, > > It?s been an age old tradition in our family to give out stone dust on > Thanksgiving. We have 2-3 yards or prime Cavechios stone dust, buttery > smooth, which we?d love to share, just as the Wampanoag shared with the > Pilgrims. > > Either email or text me at (978) 369-0024 if interested. And have a lovely > Thanksgiving. > > Kind regards > Stephen Dirrane > > Sent from my iPhone > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 14:38:20 -0500 > From: Edward Young <nedyoun...@icloud.com> > To: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC > project? > Message-ID: <e5e53bc5-68e7-45fb-9b3c-ce96b2fd2...@icloud.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Andy Wang wrote of my post about the Select Board?s November 16 mailing: ?Not > going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing out > that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. " > > But the PROMINENCE with which the various numbers are presented to the voters > is the ENTIRE point of my post. Why are the most important numbers buried, or > not included at all, and an extraneous number highlighted? > > In fuller detail: > > 1. The information most critical to town citizens about the tax effects of > each of the three proposals they are being asked to vote upon, which have > proposed costs of $12.5M, $18.75M and $25M respectively, is presumably what > percentage increases in their taxes are estimated for each price point. That > is certainly the first thing I would want to know. These percentages are > nowhere disclosed in the mailing. Why were these numbers not the numbers most > prominently set forth? Why were they not included at all? > > 2. Yes, a useful way of illustrating these percentage increases would be to > translate them into dollar amounts for a Lincoln home of median value. But > the fourth page merely says ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $773 increase,? ?TAX IMPACT: > Up to $541 increase,? and ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $387 increase? without saying > that these numbers are for a median home and that for half the town residents > the dollar amount would necessarily be larger than the ?Up to? amount. Also > it is not disclosed there that the increase would be in effect for decades, > not for a single year. Why was not clearer language such as ?ANNUAL TAX > IMPACT FOR MEDIAN HOME? used instead of ?TAX IMPACT: Up to $773 increase?? > Doesn?t that wording imply that nobody would have an increase greater than > $773? > > 3. Later on, you can find a reference that the tax impact number is per > median home if you read the tiny type on the fifth page. This illustrates my > point about prominence of disclosure. > > 4. Later on, the sixth page sets forth tables of numbers for hypothetical > amounts of borrowings at price points that bear no relation to the proposed > costs for the project, so that voters must calculate the necessary > adjustments to the real numbers for themselves, assuming that the entire cost > of the project is to be bonded and the debt service paid entirely by future > taxes. How does using hypothetical amounts rather than the actual proposed > amounts aid the readers? understanding? And why is the hypothetical dollar > amount, which is far less than any of the proposed project costs, the one > that gets highlighted by itself in the left hand column? Voters don?t need to > know the dollar amount for a hypothetical $10M, they need to know the actual > dollar amounts for the actual price points they are voting on. > > 5. There is a reference to a "Stabilization balance" of $5.5M but no > explanation is provided as to what this term means or how it relates to the > cost of the project. If it is meant to imply that some portion of the project > cost may be paid out of existing town funds, it should also be pointed out > that those funds came from past taxes and that any other uses to which they > would otherwise have been put would need to be funded from future taxes. > > 6. One would expect that the most important information for voters would be > highlighted by presenting it (for example) in the largest type size, in > boldface, on the stand-alone page with lots of white space that is captioned > ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT.? Instead, the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page does not > mention either the estimated percentage increases in everybody?s tax bill or > the estimated dollar amounts for a median home; instead, the dollar amount > most prominently displayed on the ?ESTIMATED TAX IMPACT? page is a number for > the tax impact of servicing a hypothetical amount of debt ($10M) that is > lower than any of the costs proposed for the project ($12.5M. $18.75M and > $25M). Please explain why that number is highlighted while some (but not all) > of the numbers corresponding to the actual proposed costs are set forth > elsewhere in smaller non-bold type on densely packed pages and without any of > the necessary explanation provided on the later pages. > > Those are the kinds of questions that I know the Securities and Exchange > Commission staff would raise if a company presented numbers in a draft of a > document in the manner presented in the November 16 mailing. The SEC folks > definitely recognize that the prominence with which data catches the reader?s > eye, and the orderliness with which the information is presented, is every > bit as important as whether everything gets printed in small print somewhere > in the document. (And of course the estimated percentage increases in > everybody?s tax bill are not presented at all). > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/7fb55c7b/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 16 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:04:16 -0500 > From: Karla Gravis <karlagra...@gmail.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org>, andyrw...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC > project? > Message-ID: > <CAPP=LegkTOeO-4TuUyZ2V4_0u4jZSb-D1WRR-A1m=vojkzq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and > consistent.? is quoted in the email below. > > Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact is > mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be > ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page > that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger > than anywhere else. > > Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than > those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there > should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned. > > A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue. > > > > > >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> >> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17 >> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >> project? >> To: Edward Young <nedyoun...@icloud.com> >> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >> >> >> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as >> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also >> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of >> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also >> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the >> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, >> $20M, $25M) of a CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. >> >> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are >> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the >> three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the >> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. >> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your >> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. >> >> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. >> >> - Andy (not the FinCom one...) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < >> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: >> >>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected tax >>> impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far LOWER >>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals, >>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773 >>> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >>> >>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on >>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up >>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >>> information. >>> >>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >>> >>> Edward Young >>> Bedford Road >> >> >>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ >> . >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/5d6f8f04/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_5450.jpg > Type: image/jpg > Size: 985832 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/5d6f8f04/attachment-0001.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 17 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 15:23:13 -0500 > From: Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> > To: Karla Gravis <karlagra...@gmail.com> > Cc: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC > project? > Message-ID: > <caefvrnfeohxjcvlb8+nvtzhlassxlogesetzc06yswnt7lu...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Nope, you're correct. The values reported on that page are insufficiently > labeled. I missed that page and stand corrected. > > - Andy > > >> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 3:04?PM Karla Gravis <karlagra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> ?(?) just pointing out that the values seem to be properly labeled and >> consistent.? is quoted in the email below. >> >> Unfortunately, this is *not* correct. The first page that the tax impact >> is mentioned (attached below) very clearly says that the tax impact will be >> ?up to $773/$541$/$387 increase? with no footnote nor comment on that page >> that indicates this is for the median home value. The font is much bigger >> than anywhere else. >> >> Anyone reading this page would expect their tax impact to not be more than >> those numbers. It is not enough to have it elsewhere in the document, there >> should be a footnote any time a tax impact is mentioned. >> >> A retraction or clarification from the CCBC is overdue. >> >> >> >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Andy Wang <andyrw...@gmail.com> >>> Date: Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 08:17 >>> Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] What is the REAL tax increase for the CC >>> project? >>> To: Edward Young <nedyoun...@icloud.com> >>> CC: Joanna Owen Schmergel via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> >>> >>> >>> The $291-$309 value you're referencing on that page is stated as >>> 'Estimated tax impact *per $10 mil borrowed*'. That dollar value is also >>> for the FY23 Median Home Value ($1,259,900, which has a median tax bill of >>> $17,488), so it will vary based on individual home prices. There is also >>> the chart on the right of that same slide that provides details on the >>> impact based on how much is borrowed at multiple price points ($10M, $15M, >>> $20M, $25M) of a CC. I believe this chart was provided by FinCom. >>> >>> The other numbers you point out ($387 - $773 for the median tax bill) are >>> for the prices that CCBC has estimated ($12.5M, $18.75M, $24.01M) for the >>> three designs. It looks like they also used the median tax bill and the >>> upper $309 value, just scaled to the actual price of the community center. >>> Note, again these are based on median home price ($1,259,900), so if your >>> property is more or less than that, it will scale accordingly (e.g. >>> >>> Not going to argue on the 'prominence' of the presentation, just pointing >>> out that the values seem to be properly labeled and consistent. >>> >>> - Andy (not the FinCom one...) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 23, 2023 at 12:20?AM Edward Young via Lincoln < >>> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: >>> >>>> Be aware that the average $291-$309 per year number for the projected >>>> tax impact of the Community Center project, as you will see prominently >>>> displayed to catch your eye on the sixth page of the Select Board?s >>>> November 16 mailing under the heading ?Estimated Tax Impact? is far LOWER >>>> than ANY of the actually projected tax increases for ANY of the proposals, >>>> as set forth in small type on the fourth page of the same Select Board >>>> mailing. The actual number ranges from ?up to $387 increase? to ?up to $773 >>>> increase,? depending on the size of the project. >>>> >>>> The $291-309 number is printed in large boldface type, and the heading >>>> ?Estimated Tax Impact? above it is printed in even larger boldface type, on >>>> a page with lots of white space. In contrast, the actual projections of ?up >>>> to $387 increase," ?up to $541 increase,? and ?up to $773 increase? are >>>> printed in smaller, non-boldface type on a page of densely packed >>>> information. >>>> >>>> Based on decades of responding to Securities and Exchange Commission >>>> comments on clients? drafts of securities law filings, I can say with >>>> confidence that the SEC would never allow a company to present numbers in >>>> the manner chosen for the Select Board?s mailing. >>>> >>>> Edward Young >>>> Bedford Road >>> >>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/3bf5e955/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_5450.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 985832 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/3bf5e955/attachment-0001.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 18 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 16:13:35 -0500 > From: Cris Ratiner <crisrati...@comcast.net> > To: LincolnTalk Listserve <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] Posting for teenager: kids books for sale > Message-ID: <f1ec217d-c520-422d-945b-738528b4b...@comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Lincoln, > > My son, now a sophisticated high schooler, has pared through his voluminous > bookshelves. He would like to make a few dollars toward his school band trip > and offers the following collections for a small amount. I can vouch for the > fact that these are all in good condition, having been read once at most. > (Full disclosure: we have a dog, but no cats or mold in the house). > > Happy Thanksgiving! > > Cris Ratiner > > > > GERONIMO STILTON COLLECTION: $35 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_1573.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 207270 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/4a9d5615/attachment-0008.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > MO WILLEMS trilogy: $5 > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_1572.jpeg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 180528 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/4a9d5615/attachment-0009.jpeg> > -------------- next part -------------- > > > > COLLECTION OF NEWBURY AWARD WINNERS and/or. 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Nate Borgatze.? Enjoy... don't worry no profanities! > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldwfL1gJ4jw > > > Terri Kafina. :) > On Thursday, November 23, 2023 at 11:48:19 AM EST, Sara Mattes > <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I suggest you put LincolnTalk in the search function, scan and delete in one > fell swoop.In the alternative, subscribe for the digest format and it will > arrive as a package- easy to digest?as I pray the meal we will probably stuff > ourselves with is too.? > > Sent from my iPad > > On Nov 23, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> wrote: > > > > ? > You might be happily retired. Speak for yourself. 200 plus emails a week > packed in with desirable emails becomes a full-time job. One suitable for a > retired person sipping a cup of Joe in the morning.? > It always amuses me when people cannot see beyond themselves. On this > Thanksgiving Day, not because you don?t have a problem, that does not mean > that someone else does not.? > Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Scott Clary <scottclar...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 10:48:24 AM > To: Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > Cc: John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com>; LincolnTalk > <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: Re: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?Happy Thanksgiving > Lincoln! > We all have the the ability to not open an email and hit the delete button.? > > Kind Regards, > > Scott Clary > 617-968-5769 > > Sent from a mobile device - please excuse typos and errors??? > On Wed, Nov 22, 2023, 10:56 PM Donald Fonseca <dfonseca2...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > I second that. Between the bias war talk, HCA, and the CC, I am overwhelmed. > This is made worst by certain individuals who thing they should send multiple > emails, often in bold, on a daily basis.? > I have opted to unsubscribe and I have confirmation of the same yet they keep > coming. Help admin! > Donald > Get Outlook for iOSFrom: Lincoln <lincoln-boun...@lincolntalk.org> on behalf > of John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2023 8:48:56 PM > To: LincolnTalk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] Thankful to live in Lincoln?We are all lucky to live > here.? Now, how about a nice 4-day break from HCA chatter on Lincoln Talk? > My in-box and peace of mind could use it. > John-- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/e1b16c97/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 21 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 08:40:02 -0600 > From: Richard Theriault <richt...@gmail.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Sale: Men?s MOTO snowboard boots size 11.5. > Very good condition. $40 > Message-ID: > <CAGhv85Cg3FY8PGAOsTPo7eVE5h-W490AWY=wwgvynimzaor...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi LT, > > If interested you can send me a text at 617 438 4315 or email me at > richt...@gmail.com. > > Thnx > > Rich > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/1abedd58/attachment-0001.htm> > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: IMG_3787.jpg > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 633892 bytes > Desc: not available > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/1abedd58/attachment-0001.jpg> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 22 > Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 09:22:00 -0500 > From: Bijoy Misra <misra.bi...@gmail.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] non-turkey Thanksgiving > Message-ID: > <calw-kjustn-rkpsevibn7gzgqfon4uq4095sz+ogrutfhyc...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Dear friends,, > In this town of Lincoln, I am a minority Hindu of Indian descent. > Hindu is not a prescriptive religion, it is an empirical belief system > of acknowledgement. That our existence is a blessing of myriads > of other objects and cosmos is the acknowledgement. I will > complete twenty years of my residence in Lincoln next April. > I thank you all for being good friends, wise neighbors, loving > elders and analytic young professionals. Above all, I thank you > all for the deep respect to the ground, to the earth. The ground > is the core teacher of Hinduism. We dig it, we tear it and it still > blesses us with food and shelter. It's the Mother. Let us continue > to respect the ground in our own way. Let the ground continue to > bless us with her trees, herbs, flowers, animals, birds and insects. . > Happy Thanksgiving. > Best regards, > Bijoy Misra > Bedford Road > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231123/f46b0cc8/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 23 > Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:42:51 -0500 > From: Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> > To: Lincoln Talk <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > Subject: [LincolnTalk] For Decades, Southern States Considered > Thanksgiving an Act of Northern Aggression > Message-ID: <c72f9c68-3051-4d46-82c7-b2ab6f2e2...@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > And we thought our debates over the Community Center and HCA zoning were > heated, pumpkin pie seems to have out done us. > > > For Decades, Southern States Considered Thanksgiving an Act of Northern > Aggression > In the 19th century, pumpkin pie ignited a culture war. > > https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/thanksgiving-pumpkin-pie-culture-war?utm_source=share_by_email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=mailto_share > > > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/attachments/20231124/7d59be9f/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > -- > This is the DIGEST of the LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Lincoln Digest, Vol 135, Issue 33 > **************************************** -- The LincolnTalk mailing list. 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