I can agree with that Adam! It would be great if presentations were also limited to 20 minutes.
Sarah Postlethwait On Fri, Dec 22, 2023 at 4:56 PM Adam M Hogue <adam.m.ho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Another big suggestion would be move the recognition of people to the > end. Last town meeting we spent close to 2 hours patting people on the > back. Let’s get right to business and voting and then people can leave for > the recognition because most people don’t care who the looker of the fence > is or whatever award they give. > > *Adam M Hogue* > *Cell: **(978) 828-6184 <(978)%20828-6184>* > > On Dec 22, 2023, at 4:49 PM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Let us explore what is legal and possible. > > It is not simply a matter of mechanics. > Let’s fully examine and diagnose BEFORE we prescribe. > > The one thing could do immediately is to implement clicker ( anonymous ) > voting but leadership is reluctant to citing budget issues. > > I would put that at the top > Of my list and make cuts to accommodate. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 20, 2023, at 8:57 AM, Virginia Goodwin <virginiahgood...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > I believe the proposal is to vote after, not in advance. So any floor > amendments would already have been established. > > In my mind, the pinnacle of "democracy" is the vote. Not floor amendments, > not getting to speak your 2 minute pithy statement (which actually is quite > limiting, because how many 2 minute statements can people really sit > through? Very few individuals, in proportion to the total electorate, can > even be heard in the open comment period). The vote is what gets counted, > and ultimately what decides the issues. Therefore, we should not erect > artificial barriers to allowing as many voters as possible to get their > votes in. > > It's fine to have the open comment period, but we should expand access to > the vote, so that it is not dependent upon physically being in the building > at the exact right moment, which is not published in advance. Voting should > be scheduled, across a range of times so that as many people as possible > can all have their voices heard *in the way that gets counted*, even people > who, through scheduling conflicts or physical limitations or whatever, > can't physically be in the building all day. > > Virginia > > > On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 9:44 AM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> All, >> The point of Town Meeting format is to allow binding amendments from the >> floor ( you and me) and to hear oral arguments that may introduce new facts >> and ideas. >> While it might often seem all is already known - some may have a crystal >> ball- I, for one, benefit from hearing good questions and others opinions. >> >> Returning to the amendment- inviting any and all in directly shaping the >> actual warrant, on the floor, during town meeting is an amazing democratic >> offering. >> How can you vote in advance if you don’t know what is being voted on? >> >> This does not speak to how the meeting is conducted, only the importance >> of being there. >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Dec 20, 2023, at 9:08 AM, Adam M Hogue <adam.m.ho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Paul 100% agreed. Also, especially in Lincoln things do not just appear >> at town meeting we have dozens of meetings and forums before hand so if you >> have a major opinion or want something changed those are the times to do >> it. This is why I support we vote as soon as possible or do ballot votes >> we should come to town meeting having already flushed out the issues. >> >> *Adam M Hogue* >> *Cell: **(978) 828-6184 <(978)%20828-6184>* >> >> On Dec 20, 2023, at 8:53 AM, Paul Rice via Lincoln < >> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: >> >> The 2 minute limit for speakers at town meeting has raised some >> questions. >> I’m not part of the group that governs town meetings but have run >> meetings many times in the past so let me try to explain the reason for >> limiting speakers time at meetings. >> >> In the 80s I attended all town meetings, early morning until early >> evening, coming back on a weeknight because we didn’t finish. People would >> stand and speak for 10 minutes or more often totally off subject so most >> people would give up and just call the vote so they could go home or leave >> before the vote. >> >> At this meeting I counted 20+ people at the mikes in the auditorium, also >> some more were in the gym. At 2 minutes giving some time between speakers >> this would take close to an hour. At 3 minutes it could be 1 1/2 hours. If >> we are to accomplish the town’s business it important that the meeting >> proceeds at a reasonable rate so people stay and vote. >> >> If you are familiar with the warrant article prior to attending the >> meeting it should be possible to prepare a statement that is short, clear >> and takes only 2 minutes. >> If you have major points to make you should consider asking for a place >> on the agenda to present a rebuttal. >> >> Sorry this ran so long, I usually try to keep things short and to the >> point. >> >> Paul Rice >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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