> Havok has dropped sw3d support and MM no longer distribute the havok > xtra with the authoring tool or the shockwave installer.
That's not completely true. It is true that the Havok Xtra is no longer delivered with authoring but it is still available as part of the Shockwave Player. Last year we swtiched to a "slim" installer which only contains a minimum set of Xtras, thus Havok is not part of that installer (nor are many Macromedia Xtras). But we also offer full installers for download that contain all Xtras, Havok is included in that installer. Also, you can still utilize the download if needed feature for Shockwave just as you always have. Thus, the only changes in our relationship with Havok surround our ability to distribute their Xtra with Macromedia Director MX 2004 in particular. As to the original question, will there ever be a 3D update? Folks are right, I cannot say anything concrete here and that's mostly driven by my employer's policies than anything else. It's tough, with such a long gap since an update I can totally understand why developers like yourselves are looking to other options. As long as I'm still here and working on Director I'll continue to look for ways to revitalize our 3D efforts, but at this stage in the game I'm not going to give any rah-rah speeches (words aren't worth much). Sorry I don't have something more rosy to share... Cheers, Tom Higgins - Technical Product Manager Macromedia Director and the Shockwave Player http://www.markme.com/thiggins/ [To remove yourself from this list, or to change to digest mode, go to http://www.penworks.com/lingo-l.cgi To post messages to the list, email lingo-l@penworks.com (Problems, email [EMAIL PROTECTED]). Lingo-L is for learning and helping with programming Lingo. Thanks!]