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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ChatGPT users shocked to learn their chats were in Google
search results (Tom Worthington)
2. Re: The Bitter Lesson versus The Garbage Can (David)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2025 15:03:36 +1000
From: Tom Worthington <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] ChatGPT users shocked to learn their chats were in
Google search results
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On 8/2/25 09:37, Kim Holburn wrote:
> https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/08/chatgpt-users-shocked-to-
> learn-their-chats-were-in-google-search-results/
By a remarkable coincidence:
Internet users shocked to learn company using their data
Klerphell News Agency, Muckadilla, 3 August 2025
Millennials were shocked to learn today that the Internet, which had
raised and educated them, was now exploiting them. "Its like your
parents changed the tax rules so they could live off you" one shocked
millennial said. Another said "I always thought these companies had our
interests at heart. After all, one of their leaders did volunteer work
at a government agency in the USA."
When surveyed about how much they would pay to keep their data private,
the average came back as $9.45
Head of social media company Y (pronounced "Why?"), responded: "The
suggestion that we exploit our data units (Y-speak for customers) is
outrageous. We respect privacy. As soon as I get back from running the
DSE (Department for Sacking Everybody), I will be identifying who these
people are and releasing all their details, to show they have no morals".
;-)
--
Tom Worthington http://www.tomw.net.au
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2025 15:34:58 +1000
From: David <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [LINK] The Bitter Lesson versus The Garbage Can
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On Thursday, 31 July 2025 19:13:28 AEST Antony Barry wrote:
> The article "The Bitter Lesson versus The Garbage Can" explores the challenge
> of AI adoption in organizations through two influential ideas: the Garbage
> Can Model from organizational theory and the Bitter Lesson from AI research.
It's a little ironic the NSW State Government is so anxious to demonstrate
their interest in the shiny new AI toy when their current customer-based online
systems are so poor.
Placing forms online which make sense to a trained employee, familiar with
departmental processes and legal requirements, simply complicates matters for
untrained members of the public in unfamiliar situations.
Then at a purely technical level, we were today invited to complete a PDF "XFA"
form which announced it required a PDF update and invited the user to do so.
But according to Wikipedia:
> XFA (also known as XFA forms) stands for XML Forms Architecture, a family of
> proprietary XML specifications that was suggested and developed by JetForm to
> enhance the processing of web forms. It can be also used in PDF files
> starting with the PDF 1.5 specification. The XFA specification is referenced
> as an external specification necessary for full application of the ISO
> 32000-1 specification (PDF 1.7). The XML Forms Architecture was not
> standardized as an ISO standard,[3] and has been deprecated in PDF 2.0.[4]
Has the NSW Govt. ever heard of public standards? Why are they employing XFA,
which is "not standardized as an ISO standard, and has been deprecated in PDF
2.0.[4]"? Just imagine how much hot water they could get into with AI...
_DavidL_
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