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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Dangerously ambiguous advice from Google AI on making
emergency calls (Roger Clarke)
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Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2025 10:47:15 +1000
From: Roger Clarke <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [LINK] Dangerously ambiguous advice from Google AI on
making emergency calls
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On 12/8/2025 09:08, Kim Holburn wrote:
> Your phone socket probably is a VOIP phone so who knows.? Is it possible
> to make 000 or 112 calls from a VOIP phone?? BTW Did you actually try it?
Interestingly, I tried for the first time today to use 1832 to override
a CallerID block on my VoIP connection.
It's supposed to work, according to various sources.
If I waited 6 seconds, I got a change in dial-tone.
But after I dialled the intended number, a (20-second?) silence was
followed by the dreaded Americanism
'We couldn't connect your call at this time'.
I'm unclear whether the recipient received notice and declined (or
failed to pick up within the available time), it's a malfunctioning
service, or a defunct or non-service.
(And asking iiNet would be an utter waste of time).
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> On 12/8/2025 8:44 am, Tom Worthington wrote:
>> I did a Google web search to see if I could make a voice emergency
>> call to Triple-0 using a Telstra data only Sim card. Depending on the
>> wording of the question Google AI said yes, or no.
>>
>> When I did this search: "Emergency call on telstra data sim", Google
>> AI said yes, I could:
>>
>> ????"Yes, you can make emergency calls (000 or 112) on a Telstra data
>> SIM, even if it's a data-only SIM and doesn't have a phone number"
>>
>> However when I searched on "use telstra data only sim for emergency
>> call", Google AI said no, I couldn't:
>>
>> ????"No, a Telstra data-only SIM cannot be used to make emergency
>> calls (like calling 000 in Australia). Emergency calls require a voice
>> service, which is not included in data-only SIM plans."
>>
>> The latter seems odd, as you are supposed to be able to make emergency
>> calls without a Sim card.
>>
>> This came up as I have been using a wireless modem. Recently I bought
>> a new modem which an RJ-11 socket for an old fashioned analog phone.
>> This works fine with my phone Sim card. But I thought it would be
>> useful to be able to be able to make an emergency call using the data
>> only Sim I normally use in the modem.
>>
>>
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