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   1. Re: ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation (David)
   2. Re: ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor authencation (David)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:10:22 +1000
From: David <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor
        authencation
Message-ID: <2939898.ddDVKsqQXW@ulysses>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete 
> > cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before,  but the cookies 
> > seem to be persisting  across Browser sessions.
> 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
> might be the root cause.

IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural 
justification which rests on Internet historical development.

The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML 
interpreters.  To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long 
memories:  "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked 
applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim 
Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, 
and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb  [...]  The explosion in 
popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a 
graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical 
users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike previous 
browser designs."

In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this 
technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point where 
individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of browser 
development (and of the Internet more broadly).  Look at the current issies 
around proof of age for social-networking sites.

Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site 
linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an 
individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, 
their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, etc. 
 It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own dedicated 
area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data somewhere 
else, and so on.  However it doesn't protect against someone with system 
privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or bugs in 
Firefox' own code of course.

It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the 
Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI 
prompt.

Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...!

Cheers,
_DavidL._




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:10:22 +1000
From: David <[email protected]>
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [LINK] ISPs consolidating - SPAM - Two Factor
        authencation
Message-ID: <2939898.ddDVKsqQXW@ulysses>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

On Thursday, 14 August 2025 14:19:40 AEST Christian Heinrich wrote:

> On Thu, 14 Aug 2025 at 12:26, Marghanita da Cruz <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > Will have a look but currently trying to get Firefox to log me out (delete 
> > cookies) when I close browser. I had this setup before,  but the cookies 
> > seem to be persisting  across Browser sessions.
> 
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-remove-switch-firefox-profiles
> might be the root cause.

IMO the emerging Firefox Profile Manager has an interesting architectural 
justification which rests on Internet historical development.

The original browsers. such as NCSA's Mosaic, were essentially simple HTML 
interpreters.  To quote Wikipedia and with apologies to Linkers with long 
memories:  "Precursors to the web browser emerged in the form of hyperlinked 
applications during the mid and late 1980s, and following these, (Sir) Tim 
Berners-Lee is credited with developing, in 1990, both the first web server, 
and the first web browser, called WorldWideWeb  [...]  The explosion in 
popularity of the Web was triggered in September 1993 by NCSA Mosaic, a 
graphical browser [...] aiming to bring multimedia content to non-technical 
users, and therefore included images and text on the same page, unlike previous 
browser designs."

In the intervening ~40 years business has exploited the potential of this 
technology but sometimes with little ethical consideration, to the point where 
individual privacy now seems to have become the driving force of browser 
development (and of the Internet more broadly).  Look at the current issies 
around proof of age for social-networking sites.

Firefox' Profile Manager is intended to contribute by stopping cross-site 
linking, which enables marketers to build a comprehensive picture of an 
individuals' financial situation, interests, the identity of their friends, 
their major purchases and others being considered, their browsing history, etc. 
 It does so by confining ALL data created by a given site to its own dedicated 
area, rather than by putting all cookies somewhere, all cached data somewhere 
else, and so on.  However it doesn't protect against someone with system 
privileges or malware such as root-kits, keyloggers, spyware, etc., or bugs in 
Firefox' own code of course.

It's easy to invoke the profile manager by entering <about:profiles> in the 
Firefox search bar, or by exiting Firefox and running <firefox -P> from a CLI 
prompt.

Well that's my understanding anyway, and sorry for the lecture...!

Cheers,
_DavidL._




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