Great stuff Janet!

Join an appropriate Committee or Board of APF, or EFA, and multiply 
your and our impacts.

http://www.privacy.org.au/About/Contacts.html
http://www.efa.org.au

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At 12:22 +1030 19/12/13, Janet Hawtin wrote:
On 19 December 2013 11:35, Roger Clarke 
<<mailto:roger.cla...@xamax.com.au>roger.cla...@xamax.com.au> wrote:

At 11:09 +1030 19/12/13, Janet Hawtin wrote:
>Where do security/privacy overlap?

Reject the 'you can have security or privacy - choose one' mythology.


I am playing an online computer game.

It used to have trouble with bot players distorting the economy.

It does not now. Other players said that the game can now check if 
the computer is running a bot through the Windows desktop.

I thought that was interesting.

Facebook.

Political parties have people liking them or not.

Campaigns for civil rights, through Facebook and other sites.

People liking companies and products.

Music, film, books

each other

Twitter

ongoing opinions and connections

Phone apps

pick a topic..


Customised search results.

Meanwhile cases are being fought to have evidence in camera for 
motorbike groups.

TPP is conducted secretly.

How much of UN or WIPO is accessible publically.

imho people are becoming transparent

systems government and corporate interests have the means and 
leverage to secure privacy.

that changes the balance of rights

companies are not people

that used to mean rights for people allowed for civil rights.

what does it mean now?

voting is private

what does that mean now if everything outside the ballot box is transparent

what were the reasons for political privacy, how does democracy tilt without it

i think the public and private spheres are getting different 
pressures on security/privacy

i don't think we are talking about the both of them in context and 
what they mean in terms of power differential/right of way.


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