Great stuff Janet! Join an appropriate Committee or Board of APF, or EFA, and multiply your and our impacts.
http://www.privacy.org.au/About/Contacts.html http://www.efa.org.au _________________________ At 12:22 +1030 19/12/13, Janet Hawtin wrote: On 19 December 2013 11:35, Roger Clarke <<mailto:roger.cla...@xamax.com.au>roger.cla...@xamax.com.au> wrote: At 11:09 +1030 19/12/13, Janet Hawtin wrote: >Where do security/privacy overlap? Reject the 'you can have security or privacy - choose one' mythology. I am playing an online computer game. It used to have trouble with bot players distorting the economy. It does not now. Other players said that the game can now check if the computer is running a bot through the Windows desktop. I thought that was interesting. Facebook. Political parties have people liking them or not. Campaigns for civil rights, through Facebook and other sites. People liking companies and products. Music, film, books each other Twitter ongoing opinions and connections Phone apps pick a topic.. Customised search results. Meanwhile cases are being fought to have evidence in camera for motorbike groups. TPP is conducted secretly. How much of UN or WIPO is accessible publically. imho people are becoming transparent systems government and corporate interests have the means and leverage to secure privacy. that changes the balance of rights companies are not people that used to mean rights for people allowed for civil rights. what does it mean now? voting is private what does that mean now if everything outside the ballot box is transparent what were the reasons for political privacy, how does democracy tilt without it i think the public and private spheres are getting different pressures on security/privacy i don't think we are talking about the both of them in context and what they mean in terms of power differential/right of way. -- Roger Clarke http://www.rogerclarke.com/ Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA Tel: +61 2 6288 6916 http://about.me/roger.clarke mailto:roger.cla...@xamax.com.au http://www.xamax.com.au/ Visiting Professor in the Faculty of Law University of N.S.W. Visiting Professor in Computer Science Australian National University _______________________________________________ Link mailing list Link@mailman.anu.edu.au http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link