On 28 December 2013 02:47, <step...@melbpc.org.au> wrote:

> Frank writes,
>
> > .... something has to be done to stop the erosion of our infrastructure,
> > assets, lifestyle and standard of living as governments 'sell of off the
> > farm' to cater to current cash demands necessitated by the politics of
> > selfishness that's been endemic for the last 25 years..
>
> Thanks Frank.
>
> Good points regarding privatization, made in a powerful, persuasive manner.
>
> "Yet, according to recent media reports, Australia and NZ leads the world
> in privatization $$"
>

Is this not part of the problem?
If Australia is generating world leading cash flow to external companies
from its infrastructure then is it not being mined for profit and not
designed for optimal
infrastructure for the wider economy/business/community to use as bedrock
to build from?
If Australian infrastructure capacity now and future is not the primary
goal of a private utility
how do we make systems which do prioritise Australian infrastructure
capacity and service delivery.
Profit in those utilities is not bad, it is just not the main purpose.
Profit which is not extracted could feed better service delivery?


Eg, only privatize industries that can compete. A problem is that public
assets like toll roads, airports and rail systems tend to be monopolies or
quasi-monopolies. Any potential benefits of competition are extremely hard
or impossible. So in such situations careful regulation is essential. Sure
it's tough to fine-tune such laws, but, both a competition AND regulation
vacuum will obviously be a cash-cow enemy to our longer-term public good.

*The central point is, Australian governments should NOT be allowed to use
privatization as an expedient source of funds*

This report below seems to sum up the Au privatization situation very well:


"Growth 50: Privatisation: A Review of the Australian Experience"

Privatisation in Australia is bringing mixed results, this report argues.

Private ownership with regulation is one option. In other cases government
ownership may better achieve society's objectives. But neither option is
perfect - this is the fundamental privatisation trade-off.

Most contributors to the report agree that privatisation is beneficial when
it results in private firms operating in a competitive market. But
contentious issues can arise when natural monopoly assets are privatised.

The crux of the privatisation debate lies in those areas where markets may
not achieve the desired objectives. In some areas competition may not be
viable; in other areas private incentives may not match public welfare
criteria.

While there are still many government assets which could be sold, many of
these assets provide services which are not profit-making. These sectors
are more likely to involve private sector participation through long-term
contracts, rather than divestment. However governments will need to improve
their skills in designing and managing such contracts in order to attract
private capital into these areas.

The report also notes that:

* The overall verdict on privatisation from a consumer perspective is one
of mixed success, with insufficient attention to consumer outcomes.

Who is the consumer. The investor or the Australian infrastructure?

* Governments are grappling with needs for a new or extended accountability
model when monopoly business activities are privatised.

Private companies also can be monopolies. That does not seem to be
something to be concerned about?

* Governments should not be allowed to use privatisation as an expedient
source of funds.

Private entities buying in would be using  their investments as a source of
funds.
Why would it be ad for a government to make use of all its resources
especially for service delivery and infrastructure?
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