On Sat, 2019-03-30 at 08:47 -0400, Greg Troxel wrote:
> 
> Or perhaps it is Android's fault, for trying to push people into GCM,

As I stated in my original description, FCM (GCM) doesn't actually
resolve this problem since the TCP retry backoff timer will cause the
TCP packets delivery to be delayed regardless of FCM or not.

> with linphone not adequately mitigating the Android problems.

Well, the only problem that I really see is people being led to believe
that UDP is so unreliable that it cannot be used for SIP.  It's been
used for SIP for many years successfully and QUIC proves that UDP is
not so unreliable on the Internet even that it cannot be used.

Cheers,
b.

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