Michael:

Well, it's likely that VM dropped the packet. You should look for ICMP
packets with a destination address of 152.225.118.46.

If you'd like me to look at it, you can send the trace via anonymous FTP
to our drop-off site (testcase.boulder.ibm.com/s390/toibm/vm). Transfer
the file in binary and COPYFILE (PACK it first.

Romney

On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:30:14 -0500 Coffin Michael C said:
>Hi Romney,
>
>That's just it, I don't see anything in the VM TCPIP trace that suggests a
>timeout (at least no verbage that clearly says "timed out" or anything like
>that).  Is there a keyword I can use to scan for that would indicate a
>timeout?  Maybe it's there and I'm just not seeing it (the trace is very
>chatty, just running it for a few seconds generates thousands of lines of
>trace data).
>
>Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
>Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527
>1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
>Washington, D.C.  20224
>
>Voice: (202) 927-4188   FAX:  (202) 622-3123
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Romney White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 12:30 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>
>
>Michael:
>
>This looks fine. What we're interested in finding in the trace output is the
>reception and handling of the packet that TRACERTE sends to the VM system
>(the one that times out).
>
>Romney
>
>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 12:19:34 -0500 Coffin Michael C said:
>>Hi Romney,
>>
>>I ran a trace which is too big to include here, but I'm seeing "Passed
>>Route F" and "DontRoute F" in the trace, here's a snip:
>>
>>DTCPDO065I DispatchDatagram: Dest 152.225.118.49, protocol 17 dispatch
>>mode 0, P assed Route F, DontRoute F
>>
>>DTCPDO066I DispatchDatagram releases LastRouteEntry
>>
>>DTCPDO080I FindRoute looking for route for: 152.225.118.49
>>
>>DTCPDO077I FindRoute found HostRTE for 152.225.118.49 on interface
>>CTC504
>>
>>DTCPDO067I DispatchDatagram allocates LastRouteEntry
>>
>>DTCPDO044I Ipdown: Link: Link Name: CTC504, Link Type: CTC, Dev Name:
>>CTC504, De v Type: CTC, Queuesize: 0
>>
>>DTCPDO046I Ipdown: FirstHop 152.225.118.49
>>
>>DTCPDO027I IP-down: ShouldFragment: Datagram: 78 Packet size:1492
>>DTCPRC001I      version: 4
>>DTCPRC002I      Internet Header Length: 5 = 20 bytes
>>DTCPRC009I      Type of Service:Precedence = Routine
>>DTCPRC010I      Total Length: 78 bytes
>>DTCPRC011I      Identification: 37557
>>DTCPRC009I      Flags: May Fragment, Last Fragment
>>DTCPRC009I      Fragment Offset: 0
>>DTCPRC019I      Time To Live: 124
>>DTCPRC020I      Protocol: UDP
>>DTCPRC021I      Header CheckSum: 56509
>>DTCPRC022I      Source Address: 98E12738
>>DTCPRC023I      Destination Address: 98E17631
>>DTCIPU031I    IP-up examining:
>>DTCPRC001I       version: 4
>>DTCPRC002I       Internet Header Length: 5 = 20 bytes
>>DTCPRC009I       Type of Service:Precedence = Internetwork control
>>DTCPRC010I       Total Length: 106 bytes
>>DTCPRC011I       Identification: 1057
>>DTCPRC009I       Flags: May Fragment, Last Fragment
>>DTCPRC009I       Fragment Offset: 0
>>
>>DTCPRC019I       Time To Live: 255
>>
>>DTCPRC020I       Protocol: ICMP
>>
>>DTCPRC021I       Header CheckSum: 59269
>>
>>DTCPRC022I       Source Address: 98E17631
>>
>>DTCPRC023I       Destination Address: 98E12738
>>
>>DTCIPU037I    IP-up: datagram ID 1057, len 106, Protocol ICMP from
>>152.225.118.4
>>9
>>
>>DTCIPU040I    IP-up: forward datagram
>>
>>DTCPDO065I DispatchDatagram: Dest 152.225.39.56, protocol 1 dispatch
>>mode 0, Pas sed Route F, DontRoute F
>>
>>DTCPDO066I DispatchDatagram releases LastRouteEntry
>>
>>DTCPDO080I FindRoute looking for route for: 152.225.39.56
>>
>>DTCPDO077I FindRoute found DefaultRTE for * on interface SHUTTLE3
>>
>>DTCPDO067I DispatchDatagram allocates LastRouteEntry
>>
>>DTCPDO044I Ipdown: Link: Link Name: SHUTTLE3, Link Type: ETHERNET, Dev
>>Name: SHU TTLE3, Dev Type: LCS, Queuesize: 0
>>
>>DTCPDO046I Ipdown: FirstHop 152.225.118.1
>>
>>
>>In the trace "SHUTTLE3" is our gigabit connection, 152.225.39.56 is the
>>IP address of the Win2K workstation I ran the tracert from,
>>152.225.118.49 is the address I was tracing (a Linux/390 guest VCTC'd
>>to the TCPIP at 152.225.118.46).
>>
>>Is this perhaphs because I have not provided explicit routing, but
>>rather use the "DefaultRoute" in VM's TCPIP configuration?
>>
>>
>>Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
>>Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527
>>1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
>>Washington, D.C.  20224
>>
>>Voice: (202) 927-4188   FAX:  (202) 622-3123
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Romney White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:59 AM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: Re: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>>
>>
>>Michael:
>>
>>Run the test with TRACE IPUP IPDOWN ICMP enabled. It looks as though
>>the packet is being dropped by VM TCP/IP. The trace will show what is
>>going on.
>>
>>Romney
>>
>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:45:19 -0500 Coffin Michael C said:
>>>Hi Rob,
>>>
>>>Yes, pinging works fine to/from the guests.  In fact all IP traffic
>>>to/from the guests works fine - but traceroute shows this timeout at
>>>.46 (the VM TCPIP server).  I'd just like to understand why it times
>>>out and clear it up if possible.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what you mean by "the status of the VCTC device".  It's
>>>pairs are coupled and working fine or we wouldn't be able to talk
>>>between the Linux/390 and VM TCPIP machines.
>>>
>>>-TIA
>>>
>>>Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
>>>Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527
>>>1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
>>>Washington, D.C.  20224
>>>
>>>Voice: (202) 927-4188   FAX:  (202) 622-3123
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Rob Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:43 AM
>>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Subject: Re: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>>>
>>>
>>>Can you ping from VM  to .49?
>>>
>>>What's the status of the VCTC device?
>>>
>>>Can you ping from the .49 Linux machine to .46?
>>>
>>>
>>>Robert C Schwartz
>>>Technical Services
>>>Boscovs Department Stores LLC
>>>610-929-7387
>>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Coffin Michael C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:20 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>>>
>>>
>>>> Arrggh - I have guests at both .49 and .50, I evidently included the
>>>> trace to .49 (same results).  Strike .50 in my note and replace it
>>>> with .49
>>>(sorry
>>>> for the confusion).
>>>>
>>>> Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer
>>>> Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527
>>>> 1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W.
>>>> Washington, D.C.  20224
>>>>
>>>> Voice: (202) 927-4188   FAX:  (202) 622-3123
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Rob Schwartz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 AM
>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Subject: Re: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey Michael,
>>>>
>>>> Am I missing something here... What is 152.225.118.49????
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>> Robert C Schwartz
>>>> Technical Services
>>>> Boscovs Department Stores LLC
>>>> 610-929-7387
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Michael Coffin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:02 AM
>>>> Subject: Odd TraceRoute To Linux/390 Guests via VM TCPIP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > (Crossposted on VMESA-L and Linux-VM)
>>>> >
>>>> > Hi Folks,
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm in the process of implementing gigabit ethernet for a client
>>>> > and am very curious about something.  I have a TCPIP stack on VM
>>>> > (VM/ESA
>>>> > 2.4.0) with a dedicated gigabit card at IP address 152.225.118.46.
>>>> > I have a Linux/390 guest virtual machine VCTC coupled to this
>>>> > TCPIP virtual machine at IP address 152.225.118.50.  Take a look
>>>> > at the traceroute below, when I trace to .46 it's nice and clean.
>>>> > However when I trace to .50 .46 times out.  Any idea what causes
>>>> > this?  VM's TCPIP is proxyarping for these guests, by the way.
>>>> >
>>>> > I:\>tracert 152.225.118.46
>>>> >
>>>> > Tracing route to 152.225.118.46 over a maximum of 30 hops
>>>> >
>>>> >   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.39.2
>>>> >   2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.119.194
>>>> >   3   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.46.36
>>>> >   4   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.118.46
>>>> >
>>>> > Trace complete.
>>>> >
>>>> > I:\>tracert 152.225.118.49
>>>> >
>>>> > Tracing route to 152.225.118.49 over a maximum of 30 hops
>>>> >
>>>> >   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.39.2
>>>> >   2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.119.194
>>>> >   3   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.46.36
>>>> >   4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
>>>> >   5   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  152.225.118.49
>>>> >
>>>> > Trace complete.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks in advance.  :)
>>>> >
>>>> > -Michael Coffin

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