To a degree, IBM has listened to us.  Look at the product mix that has 
appeared recently, generally at lesser cost:  File Manager, Fault 
Analyzer, CICS/PM, RMF/PM (for Linux, too), DB2 Utilities Suite, etc.  
If you get weary of the constant contract negotiations, you can 
usually find something from IBM that will work, perhaps not as full 
functioned, but works.  After our installation of the z900, 3 major 
software vendors are no longer doing business with us, their products 
having been replaced with IBM software.  A painful period to be sure, 
but the message was sent.


On Thursday 20 February 2003 16:51, you wrote:
 They should follow what Gate's did in the beginning---give it away
 and nail ya later on Maint./upgrades.
 But then again how about IBM doing something really strange ...
 listen to customers getting nailed on all the pricing by third part
 vendors as well as IBM because it is a MAINFRAME ...guess it is
 true--IBM is trying to Kill MVS/S-390/z-OS/VM/VSE--depends what
 flavor you are. If you run it on a zBOX better open up the wallet

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