Please note that I don't have enough mainframe experience to comment on
Linux running on that platform, but I'm going to shoot my mouth off anyway.
That said, and assuming you don't consider me an "authority" (I'm only a
"stand up philosopher", after all):


I once, a few years ago, wrote a note to a fellow about what a mainframe
*is* that differentiates it from other platforms.

I was surprised some time ago to discover that my "naive" description is
still quoted.

So... to recap http://mainframes.com/whatis.htm :

   1)  Maximum single-thread performance
   2)  Maximum I/O Connectivty.
   3)  Maximum I/O Bandwidth.

I would now revise (in light of Appendix "A" of "Linux for the S/390",
SG24-4987)

   1)  Maximum [RELIABLE] single-thread performance

So an Intel (or a PPC) _may_ smoke a zSeries doing number crunching *but*
loses that advantage should a single processor develop a fault.

A zSeries, AFAIK (and I'm no expert there, being more of a pSeries guy) is
*made* to be serviced whule still runningi, dealing w/ CPUs, and memory
directly.  (Sometime I wonder but it _is_ amazing to me.)

I don't have any access to top-end pSeries boxes but some of the boxes I've
seen can have power supplies and the like swapped while it's running.

So mainframes are about fault detection and recovery to ensure ACCURATE
results.  Especially when doing Division...  :-)

And "Appendix A" is important reading for those wondering why you'd
*choose* to use a mainframe.


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> He obviuosly does not understand the power of the
> mainframe. IBM has always talked about throughput
> rather than "performance" - elapsed time of any given
> transaction and throughput.

Oh, I'd think he understands all too well. Most of the industry
"performance" benchmarks measure things that mainframes aren't good at.
It's
like measuring the duration of your next trip to the grocery store in
angstroms per cubic kilometer.  The measurements are meaningless, or are
misleading in ways that don't benefit IBM, so there's no point in expending
lots of resources to compare something that won't tell you anything
positive.

This is long-standing IBM policy -- nothing new to see here.

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