Doug

FDR/UPSTREAM from Innovation provides file level backup/restore and system
support that uses the
OS/390 or z/OS system as the backup server.

It will allow you to :
 Backup/Restore an Linux Image
 Backup/Restore an Application with all it's configs
 Backup/Restore application data

And will take advantage of your z/OS or OS/390 ATL while using the existing
z/OS or OS/390 tape management system.
Also provides online database agents for Oracle, DB2 and Domino.

UPSTREAM Reservoir offers similar features but uses a Windows system as the
backup server.

More information can be found
http://www.innovationdp.com/products/upstream/index.cfm

Regards,
Patrick Fitzsimmons
Innovation Data Processing
(973) 890-7300
(973) 812-7384 FAX
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From: "Doug Carroll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: Backup/Restore program


> At this time money is not the issue for us (that of course could change in
> an instant)
>
> We already Mirror the volumes to our DR site for that purpose but also
need
> a solution that provide Point in Time recovery for Application data. So
> we're interested a solution the will do that.  that works with our ATL.
we
> use Tivoli on the z/OS now but from what I've read Tivoli and VM don't
play
> well.
>
> I am not a Tape expert by any means but am trying to understand the
> interactions better and to help recommend a solution.
> Currently I know we use Veritas Netbackup on the AIX side of the house but
> understand that does not talk to the ATL (please correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> If at all possible I'd really like what some of you would do (if money was
> not a concern) and you needed to be able to.
> Backup/Restore an Linux Image
> Backup/Restore an Application with all it's configs
> Backup/Restore application data
>
> Taking advantage of the ATL if possible
> leveraging the VM and z/OS as much as possible.
>
> See I'm not asking for allot now am I  ;-)
>
> TIA for all you help and suggestions
>
>
> William 'Doug' Carroll
> Mainframe Systems Engineer II
> Global Technology Infrastructure
> (614) 213-4954 Office
> (877) 899-1697 Pager
> (614) 244-9897 Fax
> http://www.bankone.com
>
>
>
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> On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 09:26:30AM -0400, Doug Carroll wrote:
> > Very interested in something similar as well.
> > We need to be able to Backup at the System level as well as perform
> > individual file restores of application data.
> > Is there a package or several packages recommended by the group for this
> > purpose?
>
> Depends on what you want to spend, and whether you can fund hardware
> upgrades. The big issue is tape drive access and management, and the
> fact I mentioned in my earlier note -- *nothing* in the Linux world
> uses IBM standard SL tapes, so you have to invent some new procedures
> for vault management.
>
> >From the open source world, Amanda (www.amanda.org) and Bacula
> (www.bacula.org) are popular, reliable, and well-supported. Bacula is
> relatively new on the scene, but looks to be a major functional
> upgrade. Both support generic Unix/Linux and Windows clients anywhere
> there's an IP network connection between client and server. Bacula's
> Windows client is native; Amanda's Windows client requires Cygwin,
> which is a bit more complex, but also offers additional useful
> services. Amanda is included with most of the distributions, and
> Bacula is appearing in the newer ones (available on Debian now, SuSE
> soon, RH unknown).
>
> Both support the NFS/DFSMS technique I describe in my paper. Both are
> reliable and provide level 0 and incremental file backups.  You'll
> still probably want to use some kind of image backup tool occasionally
> just for speed reasons, but both products are "good
> enough". Commercial support is available for both from a number of
> sources (including us).
>
> If you have money to spend, FDR and CA have Linux backup products,
> but:
>
> For the FDR product, you need a z/OS or OS/390 system.
> The CA product is quite expensive, and is somewhat complicated to set
> up.
>
> I tend to point people at Amanda (and now Bacula -- as I get more
> experience with it, I get more and more impressed with it). Bacula is
> a viable TSM replacement at this point, and has none of the irritating
> "features" of TSM.
>
> -- db
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