I don't know about Active Directory.  When I was doing Windows stuff I found 
that the only way to do this was with a third party product.  Because we had no 
money we ended up not doing it.

One of the reasons I don't do Windows anymore is this kind of thing.  One of 
the reasons that Windows ends up being so expensive is you have to buy 
something to do things that I can do with a little shell script on Linux.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 6:01 AM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Active Directory and Linux time source


well from what I've been told, all they want to be able to do is have the
primary and secondary domain controllers get the time from an NTP/SNTP
source. Everyone else will synch to the PDC/SDC They tried to do this
against my z/os SNTP server (which I have all sorts of things getting time
- all the switches, routers, gateways, and even the NT 4 PDC via the
windows app 'abouttime' - but the want to be able to use the on board
tools/functions of active directory, which seem to be wanting an SMB type
protocol to handle the request (cannot get rid of the domain requirement
that I can see)




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Well, yes and no.  I have not seen the documentation for AD, but for the
old domain servers the documentation was confusing.

I think that what it meant is that you can install a service that will
synchronize the server with SNTP.  Note that the "net time" command goes to
the default server, so the "net time" command will show the synchronized
time.  This does not mean that the workstations are automatically
synchronized.  That has to be done in a different way.  There is a /set
parameter on the "net time" command that will set the workstation to the
servers time.

You could install a service on each workstation as well, but that seems
like a lot of work.

-----Original Message-----
From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
James Melin
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 1:27 PM
To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
Subject: Re: Active Directory and Linux time source


All the documentation they have shown me indicates that it can get time
from an SNTP time source like NIST - just not proving that it works.

I don't know if they have to use the net time command in Windows Active
Directory server to make it work or not.....

I'd rather not have to set up SMB server... just to make that work.

Thanks for te avenues of inquiry thus far thogh, everyone.

-J



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Fargusson.Alan
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2005 3:17 PM
> To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU
> Subject: Re: Active Directory and Linux time source
>
>
> The "net time" command does not use the SNTP protocol.  It
> does use a proprietary protocol that is not really part of
> SMB.  I don't know why they put this function into the net command.
>
> Having said that, I think that the Samba server does support
> this.  It probably needs to be configured.  Unfortunately I
> don't know how to configure this this.

My Samba servers works OK for setting the time via the "net time" command
from Windows. However, I am using the very old WORKGROUP concept (not even
a
DOMAIN). I don't know if it will work with AD. But it is simple.

In smb.conf put the line:

time server=Yes

in the [global] section. Or use "swat" to set it. Then restart smb.


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