I have to wonder if the deploy takes a lot of memory for a short period of 
time.  This would cause other applications to page out, but by the time you 
look at memory the deploy has finished using most of it.

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
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Subject: Re: Anyone running WebSphere under linux on z/Series AND using
wsadmin scripts for application deployment?


Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 02/24/2005 11:48:57
AM:

> Java does garbage collect. The garbage collection occurs when an object
is
> no longer referenced. If an application is building data structures
> (perhaps collections, arrays etc of objects), then they all hang around.
> If the application is going in some kind of loop or launching multiple
> threads  that may not be synchronizing, the accumulated baggage could
> balloon. You have to look at stack trace or use some Java debugging
> features to find out how the memory usage is growing.
>
> Are you able to identify the offending application (servelet or applet)?

That's the maddening thing. It doesnt appear to be an application per-se.
It's happenign when an application is deployed to a server whether or not
you use the batch script or the admin console gui. I've penned a missive to
IBM but have not heard back yet.

>
> There should be enough java tools to check for this kind of problems.
>
> BTW, I am a perler and I know little about Java.
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> Linux on 390 Port <LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 02/24/2005 10:44:10
> AM:
>
> > On Feb 24, 2005, at 10:32 AM, James Melin wrote:
> > >
> > > What I'm trying to figure out is.... how does an application with a
> > > 448 meg
> > > memory footprint come to use more than a gig of swap space?
> > >
> > > Shutting down a process should only free up the memory it was using
> > > that
> > > happened to be swapped out correct?
> > >
> > > So how does shutting down all of WebSphere get the gig of swap space
> to
> > > come back?
> > >
> > Because it's not the Websphere process itself, but one of its children,
> > that's leaking memory like that.  One of your application programmers
> > needs to be taken behind the woodshed and soundly hided, because some
> > program somewhere is leaking badly.
>
> Ok.. how do I prove what part is leaking? It does this no matter what
> application we deploy. Whether we deploy it via the administration
console
> or the wsadmin script....I don't see this during application execution...
> only during the deployment process. It's driving me batty.
>
> >
> > Remember that Java was supposed to stop all that because it's
> > garbage-collected?  Hah.
> >
> > Adam
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