On 4/29/07, Pieter Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I hope someone with better access to RETAIN will have done >an estimate on how frequent a PTF for a HIPER is expected to be >published, and how many outages folks will have when they want to >install that within 2 weeks or so...
I think that is utter rubbish. Why take an outage to avoid an outage that may very likely not happen? You apply a HIPER (or any other service you care for) and wait for the next outage, scheduled or otherwise, and roll it in then. In by very far most cases you will live until next scheduled outage. If you really hit a high pervasiveness situation you will notice on your test system and never roll the service that caused it into a production system.
Watch your language ;-) You know as well as I that a *scheduled outage* has some advantages over a non-scheduled one. Your situation is different because you read the APAR text (and probably the source update of the PTF where possible) and make your own assessment. And you probably don't care whether IBM marked it as HIPER, LOPER, or BLOOPER. The scenario I refer to is outsourcing contracts that require the service provider to install security APARs and HIPERs within a certain period (have IBM as the independent party rate the APAR to avoid discussion between service provider and customer). Most likely the contract will also have some statements about scheduled outages, so they may not even be able to meet that target. Your approach to postpone the IPL is a pragmatic one. The larger the shop, the less likely a pragmatic approach will win over a formal or systematic one. In my previous life it was very rare to have "pending service" that would automatically become active after an unscheduled outage (and such an approach would need additional approvals for sure). Rob ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
